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Ah man, sorry about that - dumb mistake with that usage of merge, I totally forgot it doesn't work like push

@user_165629307853471744 @user_301981661761896449 So it;s ready?! no more unknowns in the killmail from SeAT?! This is epic!

It's been merged at least! I can't promise it'll be perfect but it should definitely be better than before. Big thanks to @user_301981661761896449 for getting it merged and fixing my dumb mistakes 🙂

I updated using the update instructions but somehow the notifications update didn’t get pulled. Try again? Or is there something I’m missing?

Crypta said something about docker builds failing - if you're using docker that might be the issue

#channel_821361903933718589 has some green builds so perhaps you can try again and see if it works now

its working for me..

Nice! That's good to see. Personally I don't use Docker so I can't really tell when it's broken or not 😛

@user_165629307853471744 I think its fixed. I was able to upgrade and also got a killmail in time to see no more unknowns. Still running into double notification problem though.

that is most likely caused by your notification setup.

double check on that

It’s set to notify on one character - me. CEO.

that is weird then

Yeah the docker builds were weird, when I retried the same job the next day it built fine

RIP eve?

?

Had a mass disconnect and was unable to reconnect for a while

Noob question about the kill mails in SeAT - does the notification provide both win mail and loss mail for PvP or only loss mail?

I'm 99% sure it covers any killmail (win or loss) that you receive an ingame notification for

starting to see some errors like this though

Can you pot the full error.. As from that context alone I cant tell where the error is coming from

Any killmail which can be fetched by the character or corp. I forget a little but for character it would be lossmail or killmail where you were the final blow. Or if you have people with the right in game roles, then iirc they can get any killmail where the victim or final blow was in corp

Or any killmail added any other way to seat, eg through SRP. Noting that it will only send a notification for killmails that are less than an hour old.

https://zkillboard.com/information/faq/#how This FAQ covers all the various km sources

its easier to realise there is no such thing as a lossmail, you may be the victim of a killmail, but its still a killmail

Hehe yeah I only use the term 'lossmail' as many still associate being killed as a lossmail. Its in reality the same thing just from a different perspective. And irrespective of how the killmail id hash pair is added to seat, the notification is triggered when the KillmailDetail object is updated which is usually from the KillmailDetail job

How that job is queued is from any of the possible sources of learning about an id hash pair

I think this is it...

{
"notifiables": 
{
"items": 
[
{
"routes": 
{
"discord": 
"https://discord.com/api/webhooks/REMOVED for privacy"
}
}
],
"escapeWhenCastingToString": 
false
},
"notification": 
{
"killmail": 
{
"class": 
"Seat\Eveapi\Models\Killmails\KillmailDetail",
"id": 
126131030,
"relations": 
[
"victim",
"attackers"
],
"connection": 
"mysql",
"collectionClass": 
null
},
"mentions": 
{
"class": 
null,
"id": 
[
],
"relations": 
[
],
"connection": 
null,
"collectionClass": 
null
},
"id": 
"5685ae2e-0425-43b5-b1dd-a1bdf899c01d",
"delay": 
{
"date": 
"2025-04-07 10:28:20.266672",
"timezone_type": 
3,
"timezone": 
"UTC"
}
},
"channels": 
[
"discord"
],
"maxExceptions": 
3,
"queue": 
"notifications",
"delay": 
{
"date": 
"2025-04-07 10:28:20.266672",
"timezone_type": 
3,
"timezone": 
"UTC"
},
"middleware": 
[
{
"limiterName": 
"discord_webhook",
"shouldRelease": 
true
},
{
}
]
}

@user_301981661761896449 Hope that's helpful.

is it just janice that needs an API key?

the eve Market one should work without?

yes

Good morning!! Curious about how to work out this scenario and if it at all possible. I made a website for my corp and want to have a few pages locked --> essentially they will only be for my corp members - is there a simple way to set this up using SeAT?

@user_517842699928469535 Hiya - are you working on your CSS any longer - I might have a few suggestions for some plugins...if you're up for it.

I haven’t really done anything since I created the file - so basically not actively working on it hehe but I am up for it.

Yass!!! So there 2 plugins where i see a "potential to improve" 🙂 - attaching screenshots for reference. the plugins are seat-info and seat-planetary-industry -- in the planetary-industry module there is actually a project available but not visible in the white background

Roger! Will have a look at some point. Had no idea there’s a PI plugin 😁

Would be much easier to make CSS changes if plugins would have an id or something unique for each plugin. Much easier to target a specific area and change it...

Some plugins have id's which is great as you can easily make a change without the worry that it will impact other parts of the app, but most don't

seat-info uses standard bootstrap components and no custom css, so there is no point in having css rules that just target this view in seat-info

I get that, but if you want to make your own css then it becomes harder to target areas in that plugin

SeAT info should look a bit better now - get the latest version same url, there were quite a few areas that needed more love but got it to a point where is usable and never bothered to finish hehe

This url? https://seat.eve-ro.com/custom-layout.css

yep

Tried it...-dont think that did it....still see the same ... sorry! 😦

Do a hard refresh (CTRL+F5)

Yup. no change, unfortunately...

Hmm weird. This is what I see

hmmm

and you updated the code at that link? @user_517842699928469535

Yep added this

this also works for pi as it's the same list class

I think I got it….had to hard refresh your link to get the new lines….

Thank you!1

There a reason why seat notification sends duplicates of the same noti?

My guess is it's sending a noti for each person with director roles but I'm not sure

Seat doesn’t aggregate notifications, if you set the filter such that multiple users that get the same notification are in the list, or set the entire corp and multiple users receive the notification, you’ll get “duplicates”. I recommend a CEO or director user for any applicable corp items that you trust to keep their token live.

that was my assumption, thank you for the clarification

also i have another question

does seat automatically assign discord roles?

when they use the connector?

If you configure the connector to do so then it will. That is its purpose

Yes, you should let seat handle all role asignments

sorry for dumb questions

There are no dumb questions. Just easy answers

Oh a custom CSS for Seat, very nice I think I'm gonna try it 🙂

it works great actually!

Hey ya’ll I’m just curious about a scenario….. — I want to get some friends from other corps to join one of our public channels in corp discord. — I created a separate single-sign on for them and it only picks up their public ESI scope. — I have the appropriate roles/settings for them to be authenticated/granted roles in discord via seat-connector. — so far so good, everything works. — But, I am not able to pick up their corporation/alliance ticker. I’m only able to reconcile their in-game name but not their corp/alliance ticker. Is this because they are not a member of my corp?

Did you set discord connect to allow tickers?

Yes it’s in and it works seamlessly for all my corp members just not for the guests

I added a scope to see if it will pull in their corportation info - but doesn't seem like it is.

The public scope should already pull that info

esi-corporations.readcorporationmembership.v1 /corporations/{corporationid}/members/ /corporations/{corporationid}/roles/ /corporations/{corporation_id}/roles/history/ This one reads only this data... Public scope should pull char info about Corp

@user_806925397265743902 go to anyone who auth with public sso and check if their token is valid. If any jobs are failing.

Also did they just joined your seat or they are in it for a while?

They just joined....the difference is that they did not join as a corp member so im not asking for all of their scopes.

I can see their corp info when i click on their character in seat....and it also shows up in the 'All characters' list (including their alliance info). ..it just doesnt reconcile via connector to discord.

Here's another thing that is interesting. In the all characters listing - I can click on my corp members corp name and alliance name -- and seat takes me to the corp/alliance detail screen. This is expected. For the guests - I can only click on their alliance name - I can see their corp name but it isn't clickable.

So it looks like their Corp data isn't pulled I think

ahhh so this might be an SDE thing?

I would first check if u are up to date with sde, second is your jobs

I will be on my pc in like 30 mins so I will be able to help probably. I had this issue once but it was for a person who changed Corp.... Their ticker on discord got empty.

Awesome! thank you!! and SDE looks good.

Corp info is a esi not SDE.

I'm wondering if we don't have a trigger to pull in corps somewhere for publicData only tokens. The affiliation should be there though.

Can you see their Corp in the All Corps table?

Nope @user_405130542674083842 and I spent a bunch of time on this earlier today. The public data didn’t pull in their corps into the all corps table. For whatever reason.

I had to then add them in manually using a command Matt shared.

Yeah so I wonder if we are missing a trigger to pull that info for the publicData only auths. I will have to check in once I am not travelling

Ahhh yeah that would make sense. Thank you!!

We tested this and my conclusion is seat is pooling corporations but only once so probably when the initial setup is being done. After that whatever happens to the Corp seat won't update the table and you need to do it manually. In Gigi case there was a member of the Corp that closed and reopened under the same name. New Corp was never updated so it didn't exist. We tried to walk around this but in the end it was fixed by manually updating corp info with docker exec -it seat-docker-front-1 bash -c "php artisan esi:update:corporations characterID"

off-topic / unrelated to SeAT: I have some file/image hosting that I use on forums etc, including a site that has a bunch of old mazda manuals etc. Have noticed a lot of crawler traffic from various bots and AI bullshit the last good while, so I implemented ASN and GeoIP blocking the other day

it uh

seems to work

Spike last summer was before I blocked some shit using .htaccess, and it has been picking up again the last week or two before I added additional blocking

General question! Suppose I were to make/design a subdomain on my corp domain. Is it possible to use SeAT to restrict access of that subdomain to only my corp members who are registered on SeAT?

If your sub-domian web page using seat api to check authenticator, I would image the answer would be yes, but I think you might need to make a plugin for that...

Pretty much this. There is no out-of-the-box solution, but it is possible with some coding

theres the docs plugin or what ever right?

accepts html

Hey ya’ll I went a little bit crazy with @user_517842699928469535 CSS file and used ChatGPT to render a design that is closer to my corps website. It’s dark and bold and has a lot of details. Feel free to download it from the footer from my corps website. https://www.solosinc.com @user_517842699928469535 thanks again- couldn’t have been possible without you kicking it off.

is there anyway to give a recruiter roles to do full character screens without giving them access to your entire corps information? i tried using the limits feature but that didnt seem to work

squad-sync

Is there any additional steps not included in the instructions?

All seemed to install correctly and linked on the front end but the role is not getting access to the squad

I'm getting this error

Quick question. With the removal of the bookmark scope how does eve scout keep there website updated ? Manually?

Nothing different to the past few years. The bookmarks scope existed until recently but the actual endpoints have been gone for years

I am not sure but I would imagine they accept copy paste from the probe scanner plus some manual entry

Makes sense

hello

I want to set up a seat for my corp

If you are looking for a "how to", you can follow this document. https://eveseat.github.io/docs/

Tx

@user_106257021795323904 Hi again! If you are up for it - I have some ideas to incorporate blacklists into the HR plugin. I remember we chatted about it briefly earlier this year. Let me know if you have the time for it and I can DM you some details.

feel free to DM or describe them in an issue on github

hee hee ! might be me but i found a small syntax typo in the documentation 🙂

manual installation (Linux) the line you give to unzipping the zipfile > unzip seat-docker.zip -d /opt/seat-docker -j

correct syntax is > unzip [OPTIONS] zipfile [FILE(s)] -d target_dir

love the work ❤️

lol

Docker installation ^

@user_614098468218339348 @user_301981661761896449 What's your Referral code... I will be Omegaing my accounts soon..

https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/821361165791133719/1271868534724624489

Thanks.

When someone leaves your Corp do you all remove(delete) their toons from Settings > Users as well as Characters > All characters? -- Because if they leave and you no longer have their scopes, I'd imagine it causes more errors to show up in Laravel, right? (Unless you remove/delete them outright from the above two places?)

them leaving the corp does not necessarily mean they remove their token though...

I disable their seat accounts, and after some time will delete the account all together

I just like the intel 🌝

yea, I have ethics 🙂

@user_806925397265743902 hey 🙂 could it be possible to get the css you did for SeAT ? I've tried to go to the link you provided but it looks dead now ^^

100% - it's here - at the bottom in the footer https://www.solosnexus.space/

It's not perfect and has some quirks with some of the plugins...

greart website !

The magic of lovable.dev

you just put it in the custom-layout.css file of SeAT ? what about the mini ?

oh the mini is separate - you want a copy of that?

sure

isnt there an issue on rows 1294 of the css file ?

select.form-control:not([multiple]),
select.custom-select:not([multiple]) {
  background-color: var(--color-background-tertiary) !important;
  color: var(--color-text-secondary) !important;
  border: 1px solid var(--color-background-secondary) !important;
  border-radius: var(--border-radius-small) !important;
  padding: 6px 12px !important;
  appearance: none !important;
  background-image: url("data:image/svg+xml,%3Csvg width='14' height='10' viewBox='0 0 20 20' fill='none' xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2000/svg'%3E%3Cpath d='M5 7L10 12L15 7' stroke='%23f97316' stroke-width='2'/%3E%3C/svg%3E") !important;
  background-repeat: no-repeat !important;
  background-position: right 12px center !important;
  background-size: 12px !important;
}
  background-image: var(--icon-chevron-down) !important;
  background-repeat: no-repeat !important;
  background-position: right var(--spacing-small) center !important;
  background-size: 16px 12px !important;
  padding-right: var(--spacing-x-large) !important;
}

this is showing as an error in my IDE, for the part after the first }

https://tenor.com/view/damn-damn-damn-damn-damn-right-dame-time-gif-18029769

You did all that in css???

Honestly no idea....i asked lovable to make it for me and i specified all the things i wanted and it works for me.

I did none of it hoenstly. all lovable.dev

can you share the css for SeAT also please, would be awesome 🙂

I thought lovable.dev was a software like Adobe Dreamweaver.. 😆

Lol no. I know nothing about coding or languages whatsoever. But i know how to use tools.

https://tenor.com/view/liam-taken-point-gif-18698093

Like trying to hammer in a screwdriver or something?

It’s more like watching a movie while texting a friend asking her if she prefers coffee or tea for brunch while I’m half asleep.

use bot? please elaborate... 🙂

yeah i see paps but don't see any data in there actually for any character

As always if there is no plugin for something, you're welcome to write one :)

https://github.com/hermesdj/seat-calendar

@user_806925397265743902

you need to add to schedule as well a job that will check FC fleet from time to time who is in that fleet to track correctly

to see paps but without bot you need to ask member to register to the event manually and then when u have fleet hit track fleet.

I assume you didnt hit that magic button 🙂

whwre does that even show up?

so when i start the fleet in-game - i have to go to SeAT and click that button for everyone that has joined the fleet?

on the operation that you will create.

no. members have to go to that event - login to seat and then register to this event. After that you hit track. That is if there is no bot present.

ahhh if the bot is present it's auto?

whoever joins gets auto paps ?

why does the auto pap bit require the discord bit?

I cant say if that works since I dont use the bot and those paps but I tested this a while ago. Member has to be register in seat with scope esi-fleets.read_fleet.v1 so bot will pap correctly.

I cant answear that. Without bot it doesnt seem to work for some reason. I didnt look into this since I dont care about those paps that much.

im guessing so they can register directly on discord vs on seat

so i created the bot - what do you do after that?

plugin settings and fill all the required stuff.

Gotcha ok.

any reason why i cant just combine it with the main SeAT bot? the one that has to be created for the discord sear-connector

How do you perm delete chars like this ? ive del them from Char tab and in the users tab in the settings

hi, i just install new seat 5 server and it show inactive was i missing something ?

I already set admin mail, esi

#channel_821361546608508938

hm, is there a way to do asset search on exact terms in SeAT?

sorta

depends on what the word is 😛

😛

This isn't precisely a SeAT question, but it's SeAT-adjacent. I've had three corp members report trouble authorizing their characters on SeAT due to what I believe is a bug in EVE / the online EVE account system. When they try to log into SeAT, the "authorize character" screen does not list any characters. Going to https://secure.eveonline.com/account also does not list their characters at the bottom of the page. Has anyone else seen the same issue?

How recent are the character creations? This can happen in some cases with a brand new character

The other explanation is they aren’t actually logging into their account with the characters on it This happens to me literally once a month

Fairly recent, but (to the best of my second-hand knowledge) at least one of the players has tried again ~2 weeks after character creation and still has the same problem

This was my first assumption, but I put together some screenshots to show how to correlate the username they're logged into on the web with the username they're logged into on the EVE launcher and allegedly they match in all 3 cases

The other trigger sometimes, is that if the account is from steam, then it seems to take a while sometimes.. But I've never not heard of it fixing itself either. If the issue persists, then potentially worth raisin a support ticket.

When it's a Steam account there is something that need to be done first on the account, I dont remember what exactly

https://support.eveonline.com/hc/en-us/articles/203523662-Setting-an-account-name-for-Accounts-created-through-STEAM

This

Can someone recommend me good and cheap VPS? (Except hetzner)

price range?

Plan to host anything additional?

nope just SeAT

idk upto like $10/month

How much users you plan to have / what currency I guess?

with users should i count with alts as well?

Yes.. better question how many characters are in your corp or alliance? That will determine how much power you need for a server..

https://eveseat.github.io/docs/installation/requirements/

Well currently im on like 120 😂

I've written a small docker container that does a daily backup of the database to S3: https://github.com/recursivetree/seat-s3backup Just if someone else finds this useful

hm

I rise from the dead. Hi friends.

\o/

I was pleasantly surprised when my age old seat v4 has been running solidly. Just had to db-hack the sso scopes into shape since a few of them were deleted apparently

... oh boy

yeah we didn't backport these fixes to seat 4

all gucci

doubt we'll be going super active again or anything, just got a few questions from the ceo about a few things so had to fix that so he could log in to seat and check it for himself

turns out everything was just chilling and fetching data for the past x years while I didn't touch it

damn

I guess that says a lot heh

Heya just updated to seat5 from seat4 and for some reason some of my squad filters don't work, for example i have squad for all registered users (filter - scope contain "publicdata"). Another quiestion - where is seat-sctrict plugin? It's not supported anymore?

ok. for some reason while auth there is no publicdata scope, i have two scope selected in seat settings

Does character already have this scope granted?

SSOv2 should be adding scopes, so if you already have publicData you are simply requesting an extra scope here, not two

Checked on character that was never registered before I have "guests" scopes with publicdata and killmail scopes only. If i leave only public scope it's present while auth, but if some more scope added there no public scope on auth 🤷‍♂️

I can reproduce your issue. When searching for the cause, I've found some code that intentionally removes publicData when at least one other scope is present: https://github.com/eveseat/web/blob/82c6a0aeb4c854a544a229fb2c1bac2c811707c3/src/Http/Controllers/Auth/SsoController.php#L80-L84 As for why we do it, I'm not so sure. git-blame tells me @user_301981661761896449 might know more

In the meantime, you could rewrite your filter to use a different scope, like read_killmails in your example

that's why some of my squad filter based on public scope not working anymore im already checked it with killmail scope, seems works

Public Data is a bit of a useless scope. It is only useful to use to get a refresh token when no other scopes are requested. We run into problems when requesting all scopes that the url gets too long NG and causes errors. Hence why we now strip it

I meannnnnn, has it ever been possible to request enough working scopes to trip this error

Or is it caused by requesting scopes you don’t need

Yeah... For a while... Request all valid scopes and it still presents from time to time. Request all scopes even not used ones and it's almost a guarantee you'll come across it

I remember there was some problem in seat4 with single scope (publicdata), can't remember what the problem is, that's why we added killmail scope to publicdata. It's solved in seat5?

I don't recall a problem only having a single scope?

Does the mining ledger just tell you a cumulative number for a specific rock type for each day?

There’s no way to see what rocks I mined in a certain system during a certain time period?

what does "New Character Scheduling Rule" mean under "Settings" --> "Schedule"? i havent seen that before

"Bug them one and they delay by an hour or two.

more like a year or two.....

Anyone here willing to install for some iskies? sorry if not the right place to ask.

Sure, feel free to dm me your offer

o7 hey all

o7 Hey everyone

I have 3100 active tokens on an IONOS L server and it's running smoothly. €9 per month.

have you made any adjustments to schedule etc?

No, I have a bare-metal installation, I just have to regularly delete the failed jobs from the database, otherwise the thing grows to several gigabytes.The only thing is that it constantly produces the Citadel error message.

so it copes with a 2 minute bucket update schedule?

that's not bad heh

Yeah, just the default settings, I didn’t change anything else.

😄

I really didn’t feel like dealing with it either — luckily, I haven’t had to so far. ^^ I spent more time dealing with the seats of friends, and they always had some annoying quirks — Docker and SSL via Cloudflare, etc.

but Docker is so great! /s

@user_369091036456419328 curious, what jobs are failing for you

Thanks, guys, for your amazing support over the past four years. Today I handed over the server to the next person. Take care – and thanks for all the fish.

thats like the best feeling of leaving an alliance/corp

no longer being an unpaid IT person

Sad developer noises

It follows me even when I leave

thats your own fault

What is the process to make new SeAT skins? As in would i be able to ChatGPT or Grok it? simialr to how I did it with the custom CSS ?

Seat doesnt have "skins"... its more of changing UI colors..

and yes its in the CSS..

Here is the thread to get you started https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/1247605206372323359

I already made a custom CSS - it's available for Download on this website in the footer https://www.solosnexus.space/ And looks like the image attached. ---- I was just curious if it possible to make multiple and allow users to choose the one they want to use.

Seat skins are just CSS files that override the default styles. For example the jet skin from the seat-core: https://github.com/eveseat/web/tree/master/src/resources/css/skins If you want them to appear in the skin selector dropdown, you either need to modify the seat core or write a plugin that provides it. A third option is to inject the styling as Asrik suggested, but then it applies to every user. If you need help with how to modify the seat core or writing a skin plugin, let me know

Besides the plugin skeleton, it doesn't take that much code to register skins: https://github.com/eveseat-plugins/seat-treelib/commit/d296f5066160f2f8e2fb45e2262047837e28e758

Thank you! So the custom CSS i made and use currently for my corp, overrides everything, and was essentially made via a combination of ChatGPT and Lovable (I don't know how to code). I'd love to contribute to register the skin i made --- how can i add it to the list? similar to how you added the new hellokitty skin etc.

Thanks for that link Tree.. Ill would like to make a plugin skin/theme.

Gigi - I know you used Lovable to create your site, but then you use ChatGPT to help integrate it SeAT?

the easiest way would probably be to add it to the seat core. Roughly, you'd have to: Create a development install of seat: https://eveseat.github.io/docs/developer_guides/developer_installation/ with the "web" component of the seat core ready for development. Then, you'll have to add the name of your skin to this file: https://github.com/eveseat/web/blob/master/src/Config/web.skins.php And drop your skin's CSS in here: https://github.com/eveseat/web/tree/master/src/resources/css/skins At this point, you can either run php artisan vendor:publish --force --all and php artisan config clear, or restart SeAT. The skin should appear. Once you are done, you can open a PR.

Since adding a skin is not much work, I can also offer to do it for you if you send me the CSS + grant me permission to publish it. (in fact, I could have done it faster than typing all of this) But it could also be a good chance to learn it yourself

Yes please!!!! I'm no engineer and i will 100% get stuck. I'm adding the CSS file here - let me know if you need anything else?

And sorry foer the delay...got called into multiple meetings at work...!

So the header says it is based on iulixxi's work. It also says DO NOT REFFER THIS FILE DIRECTLY INTO YOUR APPLICATION!. I'm not sure how I have to understand that. Does it mean I cannot integrate it into seat core? Or is it merly a technical instruction for how to install it? Maybe at @user_517842699928469535 ? Are you fine with this file being integrated into seat core

Sure go ahead. I meant don’t reffer that file on eve-ro domain that’s all. Feel free to do whatever you want with it

Yeah I just copied iulixxi’s file and then added some of my stuff.

I was trying to tell people to copy that file and add it as a custom layout instead of adding a direct src to https://seat.eve-ro.com/custom-layout….

I remember I tried this one and it had some issues with some plugins to the point that you could not use it.

It definitely needed a lot of work so I went with my own idea. Was fun to try though.

But I tried when there was info work in progress... Maybe it's finally finished 🙂

there are some syntax errors around line 1295. Would you mind to fix them?

So the way it is broken, it looks like there were multiple versions/iterations of the affected region and both are present/not commented out properly, but I'm not sure which of the basically identical snippets is the intended one.

taking a look now...

@user_614098468218339348 Ok i think GPT5 fixed it for me...tokk a little bit...but i also updated a few more things - this should work now.

@user_614098468218339348 Actually don't use the above....I'll give you 2 new ones.

@user_614098468218339348 ok i have two now. I could still make some tweaks to make these perfect but here they are.

@user_614098468218339348 thanks for including the new skins. I agree that they are really big css files. I had to override a lot of different things in all the different plugins for both themes. FYI - iulixxi’s original css was a very different theme than the two (blue and graphite) I sent you. If he still has a link to it maybe we could include that too? And thank you again!!

.docs

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@user_156148184530419712, https://eveseat.github.io/docs/installation/requirements/

Curious if there is a way to incorporate fittings plugin and squads so that a squad can be created directly from a fitting instead of having to choose each skill invidually.

Or use the new skill plan plugin?

Squads stuff is real complex

not possible right now, but not impossible to do if someone takes the time to do it

Parts of squads are complex, but generating a filter specification isn't that complicated. I't just a json string with a certain schema

That's fair

Is there a way to get Discord alerts for when structure are attacked?

which one do you like？

Thanks, I’m still having an issue where no data ever seems to get loaded. https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/821361546608508938/1406145371918438503

Hi all, can anyone show the default settings here? configuration/schedule

@user_140706470856622080 you weren't joking about AA being a lot less resource heavy 🙂

we just had to move the AA VM from df's colo box to my server due to some hardware issues on his end and the thing barely sips cpu/memory

our apps have different design philosophies and goals

but it is kinda hilarious to me that we could run every single AA instance on your host and have room to spare

I will have to bribe someone with copious amounts of alcoholic fluid to help me get this thing updated though 😐

Django handles 90% of it for you, only issue might be python versions if you are that far back. If its docker its even easier again

no docker

it's on debian 12 somehow

3.8.1 is only feb 2024

yeah

python 3.11.2-1+b1 apparently 🤔

you do a little python package management, django handles database state same as composer https://allianceauth.readthedocs.io/en/latest/installation/allianceauth.html#updating

a few things will likely whinge at you for missing settings etc, but we use django Checks to spit out issues

nothing else is breaking in 4.x by memory, 5.x will be the big one when we finally remove bootstrap 3

ah nice

@user_614098468218339348 Is there a way for me to go clean these up in the billing plugin? -- Separately One of the corp members did some changing main businesa and his taxes are all oevr the place....I'd love to just clean the DB and have him re-auth everything again. -- I guess i could use chatgpot to help me once you help me understand how to get started.

I can't ping in #channel_821363152046129193 , so I'll write it here. Please wait with updating seat right now. The latest seat version has a bug that makes it impossible to register new characters. We have a fix, but we'll have to wait for someone to merge and release it. Update: Latest version is already fixed

Does anyone know what the most up-to-date pathfinder fork is?

I believe pathfinder died a long time ago. Everyone seems to use this ----> https://github.com/wanderer-industries/wanderer

Its similar with more options.

My CEO specifically asked for pathfinder, but I agree, we should probably go with something that is actually maintained

I can look for a pathfinder fork that is in use but for most of the time updates are.... slow if those will even happen since majority moved to this one.

All good, I‘ve been searching through the forks already

My alliance uses https://github.com/goryn-clade/pathfinder it still seems to work fine, I haven’t found anything further updated

https://youtu.be/71mgquz4ipk?si=IT4M0DpghkAYwr5z Incase someone is interested..

Given embargo now over....

Neargly done tm

woop

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-jinx-arcane-arcane-season-2-arcane-s2-gif-9994563669291564725

I jinx it!

i might need to RTFM a bit better, but i can't seem to find how to register a corporation on SeaT...

Not sure what you mean by register a corporation?

If you want Corp data, just log in with a toon that has Corp roles, and make sure the scopes are requested

i logged in with my toon who's CEO, and i've got nuthing, so i was slightly confused if i needed to add the corp separately

(i've barely started using the platform, looks nice but i'm still a bit lost)

When you logged in, did it request the Corp sso scopes

yup

And how long have you given it to pull? It can take a little while to get everything

i think it's been 15ish minutes

and i'm not seeing any corp related jobs in the Laravel Horizon thingy when i log in with the admin portal

If you see that some jobs are completing normally then give it up to a bit over an hour. First pulls can be delayed sometimes

allright, i suppose the buckets (?) is what's going to load the data in

Yeah. But keep in mind there are 30 buckets. So on a 2m cron, then it takes 60m to cycle through them all

Another good place to look is the batches page in horizon as it groups things nicely

okay, so i guess i just let it stew for a while...

Unless you are seeing errors (other than citadel) then I wouldn't be concerned yet

well, it does take time, but it seems to work !

this is a general comment not seat-related, but is anyone seeing weird issues today with esi? i have a token with full scopes but getting unauthorized access on character sheet but authorized access on other endpoints like fleets and assets

@user_614098468218339348 Any pointers? how do i remove these unknown entries from the billing plugin database?

Next, You will tell us you're on LTS from 8 years ago

The old seat install was like that...

(there's a project that supports older debian for a long ass time)

Hello - sorry if this has been asked multiple times..... The assets screen it would be nice if we could group by container and/or station. Is that possible? Or even and excel output

o7, quick question Can I use SeAT for Mining and Ratting Taxes, or is AllianceAuth better suited for that?

Both are very usable

Here are the results for rat taxes from two different systems. I hope this helps you.

I really can’t recommend seat-billing for anyone new. It has serious issues and they most likely won’t be fixed any time soon

Thanks!

Has anyone looked into how Merc Den's would or could view thru Seat? Notifications seem to be pilot level, not corp or alliance. Would like to view balance of stuff inside the den, or when the missions are available.

Running a php artisan esi:update:characters <xxx> but 10 minutes later nothing is in the character sheet, neither after clicking the little 'refresh' buttons manual seat:cache:clear after that Horizon is showing succesfull ESI pulls Any ideas what is going wrong?

so is there an alternative to seat-billing for ratting and mining taxes?

pyTonicis/seat-corp-mining-tax, but I've never tried it

This is just completely off the cuff - I just bought a second hand QNAP NAS but it has a container system on and webby stuff it supposed to be able to docker images off the top of the esteemed heads of the tech people here what problems would I have to over come to get it to work on this NAS it does have web stuff \nd firewalls etc built in

I mean with a fair bit of hacking on things you probably could... But likely the CPU and ram would be extremely anaemic.

Super quick question I think - is there a module where I can put skill plans in and see people's progress against them?

Plugin are listed here. https://eveseat.github.io/docs/community_packages/ I think you might be looking for this.. https://github.com/flyingferret/seat-whtools

Appreciated!

@user_98490411953168384 if you want to check for fitting, maybe this one might be better.. cryptatech-seat-fitting

it's skill plans I want to check against, and it seems https://github.com/flyingferret/seat-whtools is no longer compatible 🙁 (when using docker at least)

If seat-fitting isn't close enough, I'm afraid there is no plugin that can do it out of the box. You'd either have to write one yourself or upgrade seat-whtools to seat 5.

noted, thanks @user_614098468218339348

@user_614098468218339348 Any chance you can guide me through how to wipe the seat-billing database and start over?

try billing:reset

like where? i use docker....so just use this command in the seat folder?

docker compose -f ... exec front php artisan billing:reset

ok i think that did it. and now use regenrate tax invoices?

ok that seemed like a quick fix. thank you @user_614098468218339348 !!

Hey everyone! Has anyone used pyTonicis / seat-corp-mining-tax

I'm trying to create an event in the plugin but getting a server 500 error. Was wondering if any one has any familiarity with it 🙂

That plug-in has not been updated for a long time, so it may not meet the requirements of seat5. I personally recommend you to use seat-billing.

I am using it but half is not working so u need to be careful. If u added event u can't delete it u need to go to tables and wipe that one specific. If u won't u will see errors at some point in logs caused by it.

Seat billing is broken in many ways and not updated or fixed as well.

Alright so it sounds like events are broken haha. Good to know I’m Not crazy! Thanks guys 🙂

Appreciate the info!

I haven't encountered any issues, so I assumed it had been fixed.🫠

for everyone to be aware of https://forums.eveonline.com/t/warning-eve-online-discord-phishing-scam/499245

Funny lol

Hi I found an interesting thing that could be considered a potential oversight in RMT-related security checks. If you use Deliver to inside a citadel from one character to another, then:

• On the recipient’s character info, there is a visible record of who delivered the items.

• But on the sender’s side, I couldn’t find any record at all that something was delivered.

This means that during an RMT investigation, it seems impossible to see that a character has transferred items to someone via Deliver to. Or am I looking in the wrong place? Most likely this information is not present in ESI either.

Here is how it looks on the receiving side:

But on the sender’s side I didn’t see any similar records.

RMT investigations are performed by CCP and have access to all the logging this requires

If you suspect someone of RMT refer it to CCP

Of course CCP has everything they need 🙂 It’s more about a potential situation, because suspicions might arise toward me even though there are no visible transactions on that character at all.

In addition to Ariel, there have always been ways to move assets without ESI being able to detect it

I agree that such methods can always be found. It just surprised me that in this particular case the transfer is visible from the recipient’s side, but not from the sender’s side. Thanks everyone for the responses.

Though good luck asking about stuff being moved too as CCP will refuse to assist or tell you if they do steal or are moving certain stuff.

For such situations, I know very well that CCP usually responds with something like: ‘This is not against the rules; the game mechanics allow it.’ 🙂

"We can't tell you as it's part of the game"

Or another favorite reply " our logs show nothing"

Hi Can I somehow manually trigger an update of the information for a specific character? I asked ChatGPT but it didn’t suggest anything, I read the documentation, and I couldn’t find anything either.

well what type of information u need? like all?

or specific?

Situation description When new characters appear in the system, the following issue occurs: only the skill history and corporation history are updated, while the rest of the information — mail, standings, transactions, contracts, and other data — either is not updated at all or is updated with a significant delay. Specific example The day before yesterday, four new characters were added. For two of them, all the information was pulled within 24 hours. For the other two, only the corporation history and skills were updated; mail, standings, transactions, and contracts did not update. What I would like I would like to have the capability to manually trigger a full update of all data for a specific character — including mail, standings, transactions, contracts and more.

That’s why I’d like to have the ability to trigger an update for a specific character manually — so I can properly check the logs and understand why an update isn’t happening or why errors appear.

You can manually trigger an update using php artisan esi:update:character <id>

Many thanks, this really helped!

in case you ever use the seatAPI, heres the shell script I use to refresh everything that feeds the character sheet...as if any of this is not yet loaded from the esi it causes the api to error ./refreshtoon.sh <characterid>

shell

#!/usr/bin/bash

docker compose exec front php artisan esi:update:characters $1
docker compose exec front php artisan esi:job:dispatch 'Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Wallet\Character\Balance' --character_id=$1
docker compose exec front php artisan esi:job:dispatch 'Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Wallet\Character\Journal' --character_id=$1
docker compose exec front php artisan esi:job:dispatch 'Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Wallet\Character\Transactions' --character_id=$1
docker compose exec front php artisan esi:job:dispatch 'Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Skills\Character\Attributes' --character_id=$1
docker compose exec front php artisan esi:job:dispatch 'Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Skills\Character\Queue' --character_id=$1
docker compose exec front php artisan esi:job:dispatch 'Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Skills\Character\Skills' --character_id=$1
docker compose exec front php artisan esi:job:dispatch 'Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Assets\Character\Assets' --character_id=$1
docker compose exec front php artisan esi:job:dispatch 'Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Location\Character\Location' --character_id=$1
docker compose exec front php artisan esi:job:dispatch 'Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Location\Character\Ship' --character_id=$1
docker compose exec front php artisan esi:job:dispatch 'Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Location\Character\Online' --character_id=$1

but this is an unsupported hack

Interesting solution, but it’s not clear why you need to run each job individually — the top command already starts the update for all of them. At least that’s how I saw it working in Horizon.

I have unconfirmed feelings that update:characters will queue jobs to run eventually, but some times those eventuallys are not very soon, where as the dispatches are always right now

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1opr2nj/horde_refugees_needing_an_auth_platform_alliance/

I did a DB dump today and ends up with a 400GB sql file

It takes 6 hours to create the dump

trying to go back to HDD... lets see how it goes

Oof! The joys of long term data... How many tokens and how old is your server, if you dont mind me asking?

And aren't you still on a v3 fork?

uhh it is 160k in total

server changes from time to time, but I think there are data back in the 2016s

yeah I'm still on v3 and seems it will be stuck there ~sigh~

but I gotta upgrade underlying stuff, for example mariadb tho

it was mysql 8.0.20 and it sucks

also switch redis to valkey... Lots of things have changed

wow

400GB

at what point is it worth it to keep a historic install, then migrate the active tokens / user db to a new install?

I would of purge some unneeded/useless data first...

it all stems from a poor decision I made decades ago, to modify core functionality by editing files in vendor folder without tracking them, and now I have no idea what I have changed

I mean you could clone the seat repo from around back when you first made changes but then replace all files with the ones from your vendor directory. That way, git can tell you what you changed

that could fix half of the problem

there might be database changes as well, i just cannot recall

Yep... I'd do a fresh install and bring over the (working) tokens

i've got too many stuff depends on seat that would defunct a coalition if it broke

voice is one of the main problem

makes me think they should actually be separated like years ago, but in that way I get bad reg rate enforcement

hmm

yeah

make a list of those tools and integration, see what you can replace them with, or migrate to a newer SeAT version... then take it from there, I guess

Yea.. you will need to spin up a second seat and test those plug-ins.. most likely those version of the plug-ins may not work with the new seat and check with the migration like Wibla said.

figured out it only dumped half of the entire database

left wondering why SeAT becomes a lot faster on spinning disks

Huh

How often does seat update the contract information? Could I modify the frenquency for a specific character?