Manage to make it work. But somehow the .env wont copy the setting after restarting

did you use ``sudo nano .env``?

and what to you mean copy setting aftter restarting?

down and up.

Tnx all!

Hello! Is this normal for the Corp Mining Tax addon? I don't see anything on Corp Moon Minings

U are using css that is not working with this plugin. Add section to it and change it or revert to default one I guess.

I had the same issue 🙂

🤔 I have try reset and still same issue

Check console if u got any errors.

And logs

please can someone walk me through the data restore - on the old server Ive run the back up docker compose then transferred the backup to the new server changed the .env and run the restore command but it doesnt do anything

I assumed your followed this document (at the bottom of the page). https://eveseat.github.io/docs/admin_guides/docker_admin/#database-backups-and-restore

ps sorry for the late reply

yes

is there a specific place the .gz file needs to be in to restore, i had it in the /opt/docker-seat folder

There is no specific path as long you point it in the right place..

zcat /opt/docker-seat/seatbackup.sql.gz | docker compose exec -T mariadb sh -c 'exec mysql "$MYSQLDATABASE" -u"$MYSQLUSER" -p"$MYSQLPASSWORD"'

i have some people on my Seat install with scopes that are basically just "publicData" because they are blues. However, it looks like they are still getting queued for jobs that are out of the scope of their ESI token. my failed job log is FULL of these errors. is it necessary to have this as a failed() log instead of a debug log?

Got aquestion... I get tons of errors like this lately. Any thoughts?

I think we all are

Oh, lol. Roger

It’s like this actually helped me. https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/1345031288226054245/1345378583333568634

@user_614098468218339348 have you seen this before?

Yes, there are a few checks missing in some parts of the scheduling logic

yeah it looks like its "Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Killmails\Character\Recent", "Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Character\Notifications", and "Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Contracts\Character\Contracts" that are missed. ill see if i can take a look at the code to fix

i'm getting 30,000+ failed jobs per day in my logs because of it lol

pull request submitted ready for review: https://github.com/eveseat/eveapi/pull/443

hey guys, I need some help please, Jobs Process Successfully But Save 0 Data (Render.com + PostgreSQL) Environment:

• SeAT 5.x (latest Docker)

• Render.com Free Tier

• PostgreSQL 16 (managed, external host)

• Queue: database

Problem: Jobs execute successfully (DONE in 50-150ms) but save zero data to database.

Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Skills\Character\Skills ... DONE 
DB::table("character_skills")->count() → 0 

Verified working:

• ESI returns data (tested: 330 skills, 99M SP via direct API)

• Token valid (57 scopes)

• Manual INSERT works

• Jobs process without errors

• Queue config: --queue=high,public,default,characters,low

Not working:

• characterskills, characterwalletjournals, characterassets = always 0

• 200+ jobs processed, 0 data saved

Tried:

• Cleared ESI cache (rm -rf storage/eseye/*) multiple times

• Changed QUEUE_CONNECTION from sync to database

• VACUUM database

• Verified scopes (all correct)

• Attempted applying PR

  443

Observations:

• Tables show allocated space (72KB) but 0 records

• No errors in failed_jobs

• No exceptions in logs

• Jobs complete too fast (20-150ms) - possibly returning early?

Questions: 1. Anyone running SeAT 5.x on Render.com with external PostgreSQL successfully? 2. Related to PR

443 (scope grants)? Does it affect Skills/Wallet/Assets jobs too?

3. PostgreSQL-specific issue with managed databases? Should I try Railway.app or is there a fix? Thanks!

afaik SeAT doesn't support PostgreSQL, so you'd probably need to make quite a modifications to use it

Yes. Please try using MariaDB and see if the issues persist

Did a Ubuntu upgrade from v22 to v24.. now seat is not loading...

iv turned of all of the plugin.................. not sure what is going on...

2025-11-03 16:00:10+00:00 [Note] [Entrypoint]: Entrypoint script for MariaDB Server 1:10.11.14+maria~ubu2204 started.

2025-11-03 16:00:11+00:00 [Warn] [Entrypoint]: /sys/fs/cgroup///memory.pressure not writable, functionality unavailable to MariaDB

2025-11-03 16:00:11+00:00 [Note] [Entrypoint]: Switching to dedicated user 'mysql'

2025-11-03 16:00:11+00:00 [Note] [Entrypoint]: Entrypoint script for MariaDB Server 1:10.11.14+maria~ubu2204 started.

2025-11-03 16:00:11+00:00 [Note] [Entrypoint]: MariaDB upgrade not required

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] Starting MariaDB 10.11.14-MariaDB-ubu2204 source revision 053f9bcb5b147bf00edb99e1310bae9125b7f125 server_uid 9VMJaPbse0MtQCT8llbcEfo5r6E= as process 1

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib 1.2.11

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: Using transactional memory

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: Number of transaction pools: 1

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: Using crc32 + pclmulqdq instructions

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] mariadbd: O_TMPFILE is not supported on /tmp (disabling future attempts)

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Warning] mariadbd: io_uring_queue_init() failed with EPERM: sysctl kernel.io_uring_disabled has the value 2, or 1 and the user of the process is not a member of sysctl kernel.io_uring_group. (see man 2 io_uring_setup).

create_uring failed: falling back to libaio

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: Using Linux native AIO

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: innodb_buffer_pool_size_max=128m, innodb_buffer_pool_size=128m

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: Completed initialization of buffer pool

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: File system buffers for log disabled (block size=512 bytes)

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: End of log at LSN=909954565551

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: 128 rollback segments are active.

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: Setting file './ibtmp1' size to 12.000MiB. Physically writing the file full; Please wait ...

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: File './ibtmp1' size is now 12.000MiB.

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: log sequence number 909954565551; transaction id 5628183608

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] Plugin 'FEEDBACK' is disabled.

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: Loading buffer pool(s) from /var/lib/mysql/ib_buffer_pool

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Warning] You need to use --log-bin to make --expire-logs-days or --binlog-expire-logs-seconds work.

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] Server socket created on IP: '0.0.0.0', port: '3306'.

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] Server socket created on IP: '::', port: '3306'.

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] mariadbd: ready for connections.

Version: '10.11.14-MariaDB-ubu2204'  socket: '/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock'  port: 3306  mariadb.org binary distribution

2025-11-03 16:00:11 0 [Note] InnoDB: Buffer pool(s) load completed at 251103 16:00:11

is this correct?

I don't see anything that is obviously wrong in that log

However, how does "now seat is not loading..." manifest? Do you get an error? A timeout?

At first i got this error before removing the plugins

A connection timeout was encountered. If you intend to run Composer without connecting to the internet, run the command again prefixed with COMPOSER_DISABLE_NETWORK=1 to make Composer run in offline mode.

The following exception probably indicates you have misconfigured DNS resolver(s)

In CurlDownloader.php line 394:

                                                                               

  curl error 28 while downloading https://repo.packagist.org/packages.json: R  

  esolving timed out after 10000 milliseconds

I havnt had much time to troubleshoot yet

i think i found it...

[2025-11-03 18:54:43] local.ERROR: cURL error 6: Could not resolve host: raw.githubusercontent.com (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://raw.githubusercontent.com/eveseat/resources/master/sde.json {"exception":"[object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 6: Could not resolve host: raw.githubusercontent.com (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://raw.githubusercontent.com/eveseat/resources/master/sde.json at /var/www/seat/vendor/guzzlehttp/guzzle/src/Handler/CurlFactory.php:277)
[stacktrace]

Looks like a DNS resolution issue, if bare metal could be with the host. Could try something like dig raw.githubusercontent.com (and/or a few other sites) from your terminal and see if anything returns, if not should probably troubleshoot DNS resolution on the host as it's likely not SeAT specific.

Are you by any chance from Russia? Sometimes GitHub is inaccessible from there. A VPN usually helps.

docker or bare?

Net. Lol

I remember after I used a hardening script, it broke Ubuntu dns... there is a fix for it, but I have to find it again .......

I didn't apply it after the upgrade to v24.. but I wonder if it did something to it again... luckily I made a snapshot before this...

I got it to work.. Incase in the near future that someone else get the same issue... after the upgrade, it might mess up the DNS resolution. To fix it: ``sudo rm -f /etc/resolv.conf`` and then ``sudo ln -s /run/systemd/resolve/resolv.conf /etc/resolv.conf``

Uhm

Hola! running an older Seat (5) instance for me corp; Wondering: Could I get rid of some "data", without loosing insights??

• What about table api_token_logs for example? (about 1.4G)

• Do I need all that is named seat-storage in Docker?

• there are multiple, dated files in sde/ subdirectory -- needed?

• assuming we want to keep eseye folder as is?

Thanks!

• deleting the contents of api_token_logs should be fine

• deleting old sdes should be fine too, although I haven't tested it

• yes, keep eseye unless you are running a redis esi cache

as always, create a backup before such operations

thanks!

is there a limit of how many plugins a server could have? I have added some new ones and they dont seem to be loading or even reading the updated .env file. Not sure what I am doing worng.

have you tried turning it off and on again?

lol Yes

no, there is no limit. What plugins are you talking about and how does not loading manifest itself?

I just re-pulled the containers, for updates. I nano'ed the .env file to add some new plugins and it appears that the .env is not being read at /opt/seat-docker/.env . The only way I could get it to pull the new plugins was to recreate the container in portainer and manualy edit the env varaibles in portainer. Does this have to do with the .packages:

development only it looks like you guys are testing?

Just to make sure, you did restart the stack after changing the .env? I don't know about portainer, but on docker you have to restart the containers with the new .env

yes, I even tried recreating the containers to force the read

and restarted the host system in between

does seat start up fine or does it crash?

after the manual .env edits in portainer, its working

I had to edit Line 26

@user_118681249576386562 erm, if you are running Portainer, you need to be careful with the envrionment foobar; If you defined env via Portainer UI, you need to deploy it via portainer ( in contrast do issuing docker compose something via ssh!) Very easy to forget to update either via the UI, or the env file, main reason I migrated to komodo, really..

so if I understand correctly, if I build via compose, then edit via the UI, I cant go back to editing via the .env?

Portainer really shouldn't be used for deploying honestly too much abstraction and quite a few issues with how it decides to deploy stuff if you want it to read logs sure go for it..

Also teaches you bad habits too to a point.

(IMHO) I would assume Portainer does use docker composesoo thinking along the lines: IF everything is 100% identical (env, mostly??), you should be able to deploy the stack with both CLI docker-compose and the Portainer GUI, and see no difference. Would suggest only using one for deployment, maybe (and, https://github.com/moghtech/komodo, cough - its kind of the same as Portainer, but more free (doh!), and what was key selling point for me: It does write the ENV you configure in GUI to a file on disk if you desire: No problems with also using docker-compose-cli..)

@user_301981661761896449 friendly reminder when you get a chance: https://github.com/eveseat/eveapi/pull/443

Think you should post it in here https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/821361505735278592

For next time

I am getting this when trying to boot my docker SeAT up

SQLSTATE[42000]: Syntax error or access violation: 1091 Can't DROP FOREIGN
front-1      |   KEY `calendar_operations_user_id_foreign`; check that it exists (Connection
front-1      |   : mysql, SQL: alter table `calendar_operations` drop foreign key `calendar_
front-1      |   operations_user_id_foreign`)
front-1      |
front-1      |
front-1      | In Connection.php line 587:
front-1      |
front-1      |   SQLSTATE[42000]: Syntax error or access violation: 1091 Can't DROP FOREIGN
front-1      |   KEY `calendar_operations_user_id_foreign`; check that it exists

It never boots just goes round in circles spitting this each time

Is it possible to completely remake the database?

hi i could use some help with my SeaT getting ssl for it

This is related to the calendar plugin. Remove it and it should start fine. Perhaps also contact its developer

docker compose <-f your files> exec front php artisan migrate:fresh

What is the problem? The docs should cover it. If you get an error, please post it

i just get a webroot error. ok to dm so i dont spam my shit here ?

No. Because then nobody else can answer the question.

ok

i have a Seat and i used cerbot for it when i did the steps on their site i seem to make a cert. but when i do a sudo certbot -v renew --dry-run i get this message and usnsure how to go from here

Hello all you fantastic smart people! Is this a valid squad filter or can I not have different skills at different levels within a single group?

I can't help you much with certbot as I run docker+traefik. If you don't get an answer here, perhaps try asking somewhere more certbot-specific, as this is more about certbot than seat

thanks hope can get a answer, got the same answer from certbot forum that i should try here 😄 maybe someone can help 🙂

its not. Skill and skill level should be in a group. You should create as many groups as skill + skill levels you have. Note. IF you do group for black ops and do skill level is 1 it will only put people with skill level 1 to the squad. If they will train level 2 they will lose the squad because criteria is not meet.

So my leadership is asking for a black ops squad that includes BLOPs pilots with JDC 5 as well as T3C pilots. Is that possible? If so, how would I set it up?

2 seperate squads will be the best solution... but you can try with this... the only issue is that in this case for black ops and t3c you cant request level... and people even with injected skill but not trained yet will be able to join it. But I might be wrong.

obviously add more t3c to it I just chose 1

Wouldn't that require the T3C pilots to also have JDC 5?

Since the top level match is All?

yes it would. Logic is people have to have 1 group + any of second group

Hmm, I think splitting this out into two squads might be better

if you will pick any as top level then you will get people from any of those 3 outcomes. having only jdc 5, having only blackops, having only t3c, + variants of those like jdc 5 + t3c, jdc + blops, etc

its messy with some skills combination this is why seperate squads is cleaner approach

but I might be wrong in here

I am not that experienced with squads so maybe wait for someone else to respond as well.

I have a fresh install of seat , i cannot see more than a month back on my wallet, my character has been authd for a week or more so everything should by synced up . we also verified the same on a couple other accounts. Is this a setup issue or an esi issue?

it can take some time to pull the rest of the data.. Give it about 24 hours or more

The character in question has been in for at least 2 weeks. I looked at the same character on AA and I can see back to April.

This is correct, https://developers.eveonline.com/api-explorer#/operations/GetCharactersCharacterIdWalletJournal Retrieve the given character's wallet journal going 30 days back Your previous auth pulled this data and stored it in the database back in april.

ok so by that logic it is the same for pulling 50 mails

I'm less sure about that, or if the endpoint just returns 50 at a time and you paginate backwards. I havent pulled an evemail in 10+ years

https://developers.eveonline.com/api-explorer#/operations/GetCharactersCharacterIdMail

Any idea on this? https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/821361566184112181/1438279060059984075

@user_131158012831203328 did you figure this out

I’m having the same issue

nope

When using artisan eve:update:sde are the MySQL database connection details in ./.env being used? I'm having an issue where the artisan migrate worked fine, connecting to the database and migrating the entire database schema, etc., but the eve:update:sde simply fails.

"Check the version of SDE dumps available on www.fuzzwork.co.uk. At the time of this writing, frostline-1.0-116241 was the latest. Once you have the version string ready, open the .env configuration file and add a key as follows:" -- this seems to imply it does, from the SDE Overload page.

Actually, never mind. Figured it out. Problem was in the chair, not the computer.

hey, I am setting up a seat instance for the first time. I have deplpyed fine, docs are great for that but I am having some trouble with roles. Are corp directors always automatically allowed to see all members, and all corp details? If I add a corp director character they have 0 roles but can still see all corp members, but the seat docs state that the default rules deny access. search is strong: https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/1339002325154529392/1339202570064756818

Hello hello. I'm in the process of installing SeAT on my Ubuntu server. I'm having issues with the Artisan migrate command.

Oh I see.

One moment and I'll see if I fixed it.

Yeah I fixed it. I figured the .env file had Password for DB set to 'secret' as a security feature. Turns out, I needed to add my DB password in.

All good now.

Alrighty guys, so one final question. I managed to successfully get all the way through the SeAT installation, however I'm unsure of how to connect to it via my localhost. Currently I have another service running on :8080. Is there a way to update the SeAT configuration to use a different connection port?

So yeah, receiving a 404 error with nginx on Ubuntu. Currently my localhost is running AMP game server off :8080. Config files in nginx are all listening on 80, and I removed old Alliance-Auth config files that may have been conflicting, but unfortunately still unable to connect to the webpage at this time. Unsure where to go from here, so I'll wait to hear back ❤️

I guess you using docker for seat?

No, Ubuntu

Docker is container layer inside ubuntu. What install method you used for seat?

Manual

https://eveseat.github.io/docs/installation/manual_installation/

Is nginx config correct? There are nginx config in manual

I believe so. I've

commented out the ipv6 config just because I've had issues with that in the past and it was throwing out an nginx error on this install as well. It worked fine with Alliance Auth and my AMP config when I did so as well. I will copy and paste.

server { listen 80;

listen [::]:80;

If you are hosting this instance on a domain, set that

name here.

server_name seat.yourdomain.com;

SeAT public directory. This is the only directory that

should be exposed by the webserver. If one has to expose

the parent directory then things like the .env file will

be available for anyone to download.

root /var/www/seat/public; index index.php; location / { tryfiles \$uri \$uri/ /index.php?\$querystring; }

PHP-FPM configuration.

location ~ \.php\$ { tryfiles \$uri /index.php =404; fastcgipass unix:/run/php/php8.2-fpm.sock; fastcgiparam SCRIPTFILENAME \$documentroot\$fastcgiscriptname; include fastcgiparams; }

Even though .htaccess rules mean nothing in the nginx

world, prevent those from being downloaded anyways.

location ~ /\.ht { deny all; }

In case someone messes up, prevent .env files from

being downloaded as well.

location ~ /\.env { deny all; } }

hmm. I Think it shoud be work. maybe set server_name localhost; ?

Oh yeah. That might do it.

Still getting a 404 after resetting the supervisor

If you are hosting this instance on a domain, set that

name here.

server_name localhost;

Ugh

server { listen 80;

listen [::]:80;

If you are hosting this instance on a domain, set that

name here.

servername localhost;

SeAT public directory. This is the only directory that

should be exposed by the webserver. If one has to expose

the parent directory then things like the .env file will

be available for anyone to download.

root /var/www/seat/public; index index.php; location / { tryfiles \$uri \$uri/ /index.php?\$querystring; }

PHP-FPM configuration.

location ~ \.php\$ { tryfiles \$uri /index.php =404; fastcgipass unix:/run/php/php8.2-fpm.sock; fastcgiparam SCRIPTFILENAME \$documentroot\$fastcgiscriptname; include fastcgi_params; }

Even though .htaccess rules mean nothing in the nginx

world, prevent those from being downloaded anyways.

location ~ /\.ht { deny all; }

In case someone messes up, prevent .env files from

being downloaded as well.

location ~ /\.env { deny all; } }

I'm just wondering if it's conflicting with the AMP installation I have, as amp defaults to localhost:8080, which when I looked up on Google, listening on Port 80 with nginx would default externally to :8080

I think you are getting 404 when connecting to :80 so if it redirects to 8080 you must see AMP page. so not i guess

Yeah I was trying to connect to :80

and then when I do use :8080 it goes to amp

did you run vendor:publish command?

I didnt, I can try that

Where would I run that, sorry?

sudo -H -u www-data bash -c 'php /var/www/seat/artisan vendor:publish --force --all'

Done. So now I should just try to connect to 192.168.1.74, no port?

(The server is another PC on the network)

Yeah still getting a 404 🙁

I might just wipe this server and set up Docker 😛

Ok! I got it running now in Docker. Now I just need to figure out how to connect to it from my external IP so I can connect to to a DNS.

So if anyone knows what port SeAT uses externally, lemme know so I can port forward to my server and setup the DNS. I did it with Docker.

I think I'm a bit out of my depth here unfortunately lol. So I've got it running locally, but when I try to connect to my IP (with port forwarding) from a device not on my own local network, I still get a 404. At least it's displaying with Docker though. With the Ubuntu installation I couldn't even make it to the localhost webpage.

I have Cloudflare DNS using their tunnel. You will need to add the tunnel to front-end docker network.

Ahhh

Like in here I suppose:

seat_domain = <dns> pointed to IP?

its just DNS..

Ah kk. I just wasn't sure. Alliance-Auth required a lot more config on the network side

So I was getting confused here with Traefik and such

I just finished installing SEAT, and when I attempted the first log in I'm getting a 500 in the browser, the laravel log shows > {"error":"invalidgrant","errordescription":"Invalid authorization code"} I saw some other people have had this issue and the only resolution they had was to recreate the esi app, I've done that but am still getting the same results.

Full stack trace

did you complete this step? https://eveseat.github.io/docs/configuration/esi_configuration/

When using traefik, you do not access seat over an IP as it's using SNI to know how to route your request. If you want to run docker, and access it over an IP then you must use the proxy config. And then there is an env variable for the proxy port you want to use

Yeah no worries I think I'm SLOWLY figuring this out 🙂

The only issue I'm seeing now is when trying to start the Docker I get this error: 2025-11-17 3:06:40 15 [Warning] Access denied for user 'seat'@'172.20.0.4' (using password: YES) front In Connection.php line 829: SQLSTATE[HY000] [1045] Access denied for user 'seat'@'172.20.0.4' (using pa ssword: YES) (Connection: mysql, SQL: select tablename as name, (datale ngth + indexlength) as size, tablecomment as comment, engine as engi ne, tablecollation as collation from informationschema.tables where ta bleschema = 'seat' and tabletype in ('BASE TABLE', 'SYSTEM VERSIONED') or der by table_name) In Connector.php line 65: SQLSTATE[HY000] [1045] Access denied for user 'seat'@'172.20.0.4' (using pa ssword: YES) I did setup the password in the .env

So I just need to figure out if I need to edit that config file

I'm assuming if I point it to the dns though, it'll probably work

So im gunna try that now

https://i.imgur.com/zJ8ZkYK.png

Did you setup the env password for the db after having started it for the first time? If this is the case then it was created with one password and you are now using another. If you have no data in the db you care about you can just drop the db volume then restart the stack to restore it. docker compose -f docker-compose.yml -f docker-compose.mariadb.yml down -v

So I did that, can't restart the Docker now though

There we go. I re-ran docker compose -f docker-compose.yml -f docker-compose.mariadb.yml -f docker-compose.traefik.yml up after completely redoing the .env file to ensure configs are correct and it's starting up again now.

Ok, so the Docker is up and running. I think my tunnel isn't working properly from cloudflare though. So I set up the tunnel as https://seat.imperiumcartel.org and downloaded Cloudflared. Set up the services:

However, I maybe got the internal forward wrong? I'll take a screenshot

And this is the output from the tunnel

Ok.. i understand why... you have to make sure the line for EVEcallbackurl is like this... But to me it looks like an issue that seat is not able to connect to EVE ESI... ``EVECALLBACKURL=${APP_URL}/auth/eve/callback``

you will need to add the tunnel to the "seatbackendend" docket network..

also need to add port 8080

192.168.1.66:8080

docker run -d --name cloudflare-seat --restart unless-stopped --network seat-docker_seat-frontend cloudflare/cloudflared:latest tunnel run --token

docker: Error response from daemon: failed to set up container networking: network seat-docker_seat-frontend not found

you will need to check the docker network name

I think this is the command ``docker network ls``

ok.. you need to add ``master`` in the command

Ahh kk

``docker run -d --name cloudflare-seat --restart unless-stopped --network seat-docker-master_seat-frontend cloudflare/cloudflared:latest tunnel run --token``

docker: Error response from daemon: Conflict. The container name "/cloudflare-seat" is already in use by container "e5a3bb71d664edd8ffafc20cc91c611bb1b4aa20c349b075f2cf504ed0bda651". You have to remove (or rename) that container to be able to reuse that name.

so docker rm e5a3bb71d664edd8ffafc20cc91c611bb1b4aa20c349b075f2cf504ed0bda651?

Then re-run?

Sorry, never used Docker before and I'm kinda amateur lol

yes

I've set up Alliance Auth a bunch of times, but this is a pain haha

you might have to bring it down first before you can remove it

Alrighty

It gave me a token back

you have to use your token given to you by Claudflare

lol. mee too

Ohhh where --token is

put in my own token

Ok, lemme remove this container lol

no.. not your own.. it when you created a tunnel from cloudflare site

thats what I mean

sorry

Ok so just to confirm

Before I run this command again

docker run -d --name cloudflare-seat --restart unless-stopped --network seat-docker-master_seat-frontend cloudflare/cloudflared:latest tunnel run --<insert cloudflare token here>

almost

docker run -d --name cloudflare-seat --restart unless-stopped --network seat-docker-master_seat-frontend cloudflare/cloudflared:latest tunnel run --token <insert cloudflare token here>

Thank you!

Ran this docker run -d --name cloudflare-seat --restart unless-stopped --network seat-docker-master_seat-frontend cloudflare/cloudflared:latest tunnel run --token eyJhIjoi* <- is just the whole string The Docker window gave a token back, no errors.

no change

did you put your id??

do you have a cloudflare account?

Yes

where it says "4. Run the following command". you can copy the command and past it into a notepad so you can see the full token.

Yeah I did that

Like, I copied the whole token

docker run -d --name cloudflare-seat --restart unless-stopped --network seat-docker-master_seat-frontend cloudflare/cloudflared:latest tunnel run --token eyJhIjoiOWE0NTQ5NTRjZDQ3MTdkMmViYzU5OTQ2MWJmZTA3ZGEiLCJ0IjoiYTk0M2FlM2QtZmViNy00Mjg4LWJmOTUtYmYwOTEwZDk0MTdhIiwicyI6Ik1EZGtPRE***** <- More asterisks to not give the whole token here

obviously its a authorization issue.. seem like an issue with the key or something.. i would double check the key.. otherwise.. maybe someone else may know why..

That would be the issue... there is no asterisks.. so it is missing the rest of the code... also you should generate a new code.

No

I'm adding them in

to hide the code

Unsure if it's bad or not to show full code

ok

if it's unique or w/e

hmm..

So now I'm just getting this error on Cloudflare

So I think IP or Firewall issues

error": "Unable to reach the origin service. The service may be down or it may not be responding to traffic from cloudflared: dial tcp 192.168.1.66:8080: connectex: No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it.", "connIndex": 0, "originService": "https://192.168.1.66:8080", "ingressRule": 0 }

I port forwarded 8080, 80 and 443, as well as opened all of them on the system and allowed them

I know nothing about the CF config I think thats the wrong IP Address. NVM, using tunnel

yea.. that is normal because you dont have the tunnel up atm.

I'm so confused lol!

lol

I'm literally so confused 🙁

there is a link since 46 mins

lol

Well, I finally got it working after messing with chatgpt for a while 😄

new day, new tz, going to revive this issue 😄

Haven't made any progress on it

stack trace is attached above

probably doesn't help using docker desktop

Most likely something wrong with your SSO setup. Have you gone throught the setup guide? https://eveseat.github.io/docs/configuration/esi_configuration/

yup

and it does the SSO flow fine

It's only on the callback that issues arise

https://i.imgur.com/twWRCX9.png

https://i.imgur.com/AWm9JmX.png

Hey guys

So I'm having issues with the Discord Connector - I need to input a Guild_ID, but I cannot find where to place thast

Is the bot in your server?

Yeah

And it's able to handle roles for Members

just not other squads

It has to be whatever way you have configured the bot on discord developer portal, it should get the guild id when you click save after putting in the client id, secret and token

I'll take a look back into the Developer portal

Try clicking save on it again and readd the bot to the server

And make sure the bot in discord developer has all the correct scopes it needs

Ahhh I'm curious if it was because I didn't have it set as a bot

It just had applications commands

I added bot and administrator to it

Likely it, you'll need to kick and readd the bot to get the new scopes

Yeah I'm having issues reinviting it now 🙁

I keep getting a server error 500 probably from the redirect

Ok!

We have updates

So now when I'm trying to update roles I get that instead of the Guild_ID error

The bot is as high in our roles list as it can go

Got it figured out

Was missing

Guys in my seat instance i have a role called everyone and a squad that assigns that auto to "everyone in alliance and everyone not in alliance" and it grabbed anyone in seat but it dident update when a new user is added to seat

Is there a better way way to ensure a default permission ? Trying to give access to hr and connector

How long since that user was added?

a few minuts

Give it an hour or so

The spesific issue is trying to allow that user to auth to discord

they cant wait one hour for that

We can only decide if a character should be allowed in a squad if we have ESI data about him. An hour is about the upper bound for how long an ESI update can take, although it should be faster. When a new user doesn't join a squad, it could be many things. Most importantly, we first have to know if it is a squad filter issue or if the underlying data for the squad filter is not there.

How about changeing the default permissions of the instance ? that would allow this to be solved

Im fairly certain there used to be some default permission in the past but i could be hallusinating that

I ended up just using an open squad that anyone could join on their own to get connector access and it was part of the recruitment process to join the squad. That squad tied directly into the squad sync plugin as well for recruiter permissions to the users since we preferred to not have recruiters seeing all user data all the time.

Not the worst idea actually

I did something similar, automated squad that works on character. It picks up within a minute. Rule is NOT Lucius Furius (me) Works like a charm

too many jobs, is there any way to turn off some jobs?

For instance: Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Universe\Structures\Citadel

Do chars have to be a certain age to be picked up properly?

Hey 🙂 So got an issue with the SRP System, essentially if a ship had any Blue Prints or Corpses or other odd items in the cargo, the SRP system just says 'Invalid killmail address'. Anyone got any ideas if there is a workaround for this to get the SRP system to accept the link? Thanks!

Can you provide an example killmail you're having problems with? @user_395600246287106059

Have a quick one - my docker instance won't use all 2048MB on server. I have added COMPOSERMEMORYLIMIT= -1 to the end of the .ENV file and reupped the instances but it still won't use all that's available. When I try to add a member to a squad I get: DataTables warning: table id=members-table - Ajax error. For more information about this error, please see https://datatables.net/tn/ And system logs at same time show: "userId": 2, "exception": "[object] (Symfony\\Component\\ErrorHandler\\Error\\FatalError(code: 0): Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 26181632 bytes) at /var/www/seat/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Http/JsonResponse.php:84) [stacktrace] #0 {main} " Is there a way to impose a custom limit, as my server has 2048MB available? NOTE: I managed to resolve this, and made a post in support-forum for if anyone else hits it: https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/1441465001826320404/1441465001826320404

For the last few days I've been trying to get a development environment going so I could take a look at explore failures surrounding discord notifications, but I'm having a hell of a time trying to get a working stack going on localhost. On my VPSes I use for production instances the docker bootstrap script always just worked, but locally on windows there seems to be 2 blockers from even a fresh WSL Ubuntu install. First is the front container not being able to reach the database (wrong default credentials somehow?):

In Connection.php line 829:
  SQLSTATE[HY000] [1045] Access denied for user 'seat'@'172.18.0.4' (using pa  
  ssword: YES) (Connection: mysql, SQL: select table_name as `name`, (data_le  
  ngth + index_length) as `size`, table_comment as `comment`, engine as `engi  
  ne`, table_collation as `collation` from information_schema.tables where ta  
 ble_schema = 'seat' and table_type in ('BASE TABLE', 'SYSTEM VERSIONED') or  
  der by table_name)                                                           
In Connector.php line 65:
  SQLSTATE[HY000] [1045] Access denied for user 'seat'@'172.18.0.4' (using password: YES)              

After initial startup, this particular problem seems to be fixed if one does docker compose -f docker-compose.yml -f docker-compose.mariadb.yml down -v followed by docker compose -f docker-compose.yml -f docker-compose.mariadb.yml -f docker-compose.traefik.yml up -d, but it does recur again after a docker system prune --all --volumes and rm -rf /opt/seat-docker when trying to start over. The other issue seems to be with the traefik container, which just spins doing this:

time="2025-11-21T11:45:25Z" level=error msg="Failed to retrieve information of the docker client and server host: Error response from daemon: " providerName=docker

time="2025-11-21T11:45:25Z" level=error msg="Provider connection error Error response from daemon: , retrying in 4.381230717s" providerName=docker

Trying to navigate to localhost in these scenarios produces a 404. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong or what I'm missing to get a local stack running so I can try to debug whats going on with our missed notifications?

https://github.com/eveseat-plugins/seat-info?tab=readme-ov-file#docker this has been a successful fix for me with memory issues, however I haven't had your specific issue before. if you follow the instructions i linked for this plugin (even if you dont have the plugin), it will overwrite the php.ini settings to increase memorylimit. (make sure you uncomment the "memorylimit" option in that config file, the one it gives you has it commented out)

amazing will give it a go, thank you

unfortunately didn't solve it, thank you though @user_224899784257961984

thats...odd. same exact error? and you're sure you restarted the containers? check inside the "front" container to see if /usr/local/etc/php/conf.d/seat_info.ini exists

yeah... I've managed to solve it though... just writing up into a support forum post for if anyone else gets it

ok, glad to hear

sorry, i'd help but i havent done dev on windows with seat

no

Completed the post. https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/1441465001826320404/1441465001826320404 I genuinely appreciate your efforts of support, thank you

@user_594467591091781664 that citadel maxattemptsexceeded happens because the citadel access is cached inside redis instead of the database, so if your containers reboot, it re-requests the APIs and can clobber your ESI with that. I recommend setting "CITADELACCESSCACHE=db" in your .env to force it to save the access cache to the database instead of redis. (https://github.com/eveseat/eveapi/pull/425)

no problem....but i'm a bit confused. your instructions are what I provided, right? or am i misunderstanding something

Eventually got this working after downgrading docker to a version with docker engine < 29. Not exactly sure why but found some other peeps with similar issues with traefik: https://community.traefik.io/t/traefik-stops-working-it-uses-old-api-version-1-24/29019/9

Yes, this is an ESI link for one of the SRP requests that isnt accepted https://esi.evetech.net/v1/killmails/131235632/bc5a1584381a7f80d610a190b0430767752114b1/?datasource=tranquility

many thanks

Yes, this is an ESI link for one of the

For docker users .. if not already told here but with the new docker version (29.x.x) the upped the API (minimum) version to 1.44 , Traefik doesnt support that (yet) so you can get a 404. Downgrading docker again to latest 28.5.2 solves this

You can also just change the socket to flag wrong data for now

You probably want to decrease the update rate. You can reduce the schedule of seat:buckets:update or use per-character update schedules

no

regarding the DB issue: Have you changed the DB password after first starting the stack? That can cause this issue. If so (on a development install), just delete the docker volume of the database and restart. it should recreate the DB with the new password

So I seem to have everything running fine, but when I see jobs for updating character information complete successfully I don't see the results in SEAT's UI. The jobs complete very quickly, which makes me suspicious. Horizon is running fine. SEAT is running fine. Character tokens have a green tick next to their name. No errors anywhere. What could I be missing? I've tried clearing the cache too.

Hmm. I was logged in as admin. After I logged in as a normal EVE character via a normal EVE account, I was able to hit refresh to get financials to show up. WIll every character have to do that?

It can take up to half an hour for a character to fully populate, sometimes longer

just made a fresh install but only get "404 page not found" when trying to open seat in a browser. i can't see any errors in the logs. Any Ideas? I can also ping the seat url without problems

404 from traefik, from laravel, from something else? (If you don't know, post a screenshot)

https://imgur.com/mu6RgPJ

so it is traefik

Is your SEATDOMAIN and APPURL correct?

APPURL=https://${SEATDOMAIN} and seat domain is correct

everything worked fine until i wanted to update the installation with the folowing: docker compose -f docker-compose.yml -f docker-compose.mariadb.yml -f docker-compose.traefik.yml pull docker compose -f docker-compose.yml -f docker-compose.mariadb.yml -f docker-compose.traefik.yml down docker compose -f docker-compose.yml -f docker-compose.mariadb.yml -f docker-compose.traefik.yml up -d docker image prune -f after that i got the 404 error. I then did a completely fresh installation of the server and seat but obviously that didnt fix it.

Got the seat logs?

which ones do you need?

So when you hit the page that generates the 500 error you should see an error log appear in the laravel log

That's the error we need to see

@user_694997897900720248 check what docker version u have. U might have the issue described in here https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/821361546608508938/1441747765523775542

That was the problem. Installed an older docker version and now it works again. Thank you so much ❤️

I have a docker desktop installation of SeAT, wondering is it possible to move the database to a different drive at all? My main drive is nearly full due to the amount of user data lol

https://forums.docker.com/t/docker-desktop-linux-move-images-containers-to-another-hard-drive/144761/2

@user_301981661761896449 @user_614098468218339348 wanted to bring this to your attention: https://github.com/eveseat/seat-docker/pull/42#issuecomment-3594648202 should be a small but necessary change to unfuck future installs. Also I'm sure a bunch of people are going to start having support issues and getting "404 page not found" until they manually update their traefik yml file, so just an FYI if you start seeing that a lot in here

should the automated docker installation not also configurate nginx on its own? 🤔

The docker installation doesn’t use nginx, so no

What is your problem?

hm...im just a bit confused right now. if i use the docker installer do i need to set anything up beforehand?

because if i run only the docker thingy and configure as shown there, i do not see anything when i try to reach the server

when i try do go over the domain i entered it runs dry and if i go over the IP it ends in a 404 error 🤔

okay....fixed that...most likely problem with the DNS redirect

yeahhhh dont have to worry as im not using the default traefik yaml

error "invalidscope" errordescription "The requested 'esi-alliances.read_contacts.v1' scope is not valid." That error relates to the developer portal thingy or not? 🤔

admin page then remove the scope

sigh well well...CEOs...never do what you want them to do

by admin i mean the seat admin account

yes but CEO did set the application wrong

so i want to ask for the shit but the application is only set to public data atm 🙃

so you have no access to the host its deployed on ?

i have i have

you have what?

access to the host

so then create the admin login ?

i did

then you just need to go to the settings page where scopes are

find the one causing issues and delete

yehaaa but as i said. i want to have that scope. but for the scope to work. the client ID (Third Party Application) needs to allow it. and my CEO fucket that up.

that's not the problem, i guess he asked his CEO to do the APP and configure the scope from the CCP dev area, he's not talking about the SeAT SSO

right!

AH thats a valid scope

rip i thought it was one of the ones they got rid of

Now i get this... error "invalidrequest" errordescription "The redirect URL does not match any of the configured values for this client." it fetches the callback link automatically in the .env based on the given domain or not?

prob needs to be updated on ccp dev

ahhh good call

It’s pretty strict. The value in your .env and on the ccp portal have to match exactly

yehaaa it was the DNS redirect that was missing

now its all running so far....only problem is that it does not fetch any infos actually. when i put a char in, it ask for the right scopes and the chars give the right scopes, but no data comes in

it should fetch the data when the char gets put into the System aka granting the scopes or not?

Did it fetch any of the data , I had issues with mine with that until I opened those ports on the firewall

Are your jobs processing?

Non at all. It knows the char names and that it. But firewall...🤔 The important Ports should be open with the docker Install or not?

No failing Jobs when it checked for it.

then the opposite: are there successful jobs?

I think that would depend on your deployment environment i used proxmox to install docker so I had to forward the ports in my proxmox

It's interesting that particular type of job fails every day at the exact same time. Does that particular API endpoint go down for maintenance a that time? That's 1900 AEST. Downtime is 2100 AEST.

that is sorta fucky

What is your schedule for esi:update:public? That command is scheduled daily and runs the job you posted.

Dunno what changed...but now data is flowing. 🤔 @user_614098468218339348

funny enough now i have some failed job, all for killmails. but rest of jobs is completing like they should. 🤔

I’ll check it out later — it’s very likely the default from the install instructions.

I can try jiggling the time a bit.

The official Style guid...is that up to date? Because im able to change the logo and text...but the background picture is not loading 🤔

If images aren’t loading, it might be worth checking the content security policies

well its the one from the example atm. i suppose that should work? XD

It will give you a warning if you open the browser dev tools

hmmmhmmmm

there is an error...and i guess that because he ignores the docker-compose.override.yml when i try to breing it into effect. he says the version is wrong and it gets ignored

or im just stupid and dont understand the warning. also possible. XD

I see that he blocks the link i put in as a try at first. but i changed the link to the default one back

it just looks like that the change does not goes into effect

now its back to total....default...lel XD

that makes me crazy...it still tries to show the wrong picture from my test link. but that link is in non of the css files anymore

Perhaps a caching issue? Try to clear your cache/disable it in the dev tools

i tried it in 2 browsers and even on another device... 🙁

Hm...i have some public meta and public universe jobs failing The Status ones failing because of Seat\Eseye\Exceptions\RequestFailedException: Bad gateway in /var/www/seat/vendor/eveseat/eseye/src/Fetchers/Fetcher.php:261 And the Name ones because of Error: Call to a member function push() on null in /var/www/seat/vendor/eveseat/eveapi/src/Jobs/Universe/Names.php:98 What can/must i do there to fix that?

Hi is there a way in seAT to have people such as admins exlcuded from being queried by others such as CEO from directors or HR dudes?

Bad gateway is usually a CCP side thing. Is that during DT? For names. Can we have the full stacktrace? Looks like the job is being triggered without any names to look up.

It all comes sown to how you assign your roles. Noting that CEOs and directors always get access to their corp membership

Im trying to play around with the roles but cannot figure it out, im not very clued up on these things.

So what exactly are you trying to achieve?

What do you want the role to do be used for

to test that while CEO can see their entire corp, that directors cannot see the CEO. It isn't a major concern but something that was asked by one of my people

They will be able to see the CEO

Ok, thanks for confirming. Everything else seems easy enough. Appreciate you taking the time to confirm.

All good 🙂 We want it to be as useful as possible

Will do as soon as i can. 👍

does anyone else experience that kind of errors, i've seen them popping more often lately, while the instance has more than enough memory to spare. i've seen it on multiple servers.

Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2243680 bytes)
Context:

{
  "exception": "[object] (Symfony\\Component\\ErrorHandler\\Error\\FatalError(code: 0): Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 2243680 bytes) at /var/www/seat/vendor/laravel/framework/src/Illuminate/Database/Connection.php:430)
[stacktrace]
#0 {main}
"
}

also it's a very small amount of memory so it's very weird

sounds like a php memory limit?

yep sounds like it, but ... it's super weird

in the php.ini of the docker version for production purpose we've this

; Maximum amount of memory a script may consume
; https://php.net/memory-limit
memory_limit = 128M

so i guess i've found the responsible ^^

Can you get us the full stack trace so we see what went wrong?

it's all i have sadly, but looks like something spiked above 512mb pushed it to 2048 and i've no more kaboom of this kind .. but yeah something was eating a lot of memory at one point

i'll try to investigate more see if i find some more infos

Hi. Can anyone help. I have a fresh docker install with reverse proxy nginx. My problem is that when I view the application in a brower (https) all of the links in the html are http (no s) and the browser is refusing to load them. I have double checked .env says https (APPURL=https://${SEATDOMAIN}). .env has never changed since first startup. Can anyone give me a clue why this might be happening?

Fixed it. For anyone else looking, make sure you have all the proxy_ stuff setup as described here. https://seat-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/installation/webservers/nginx/

just so you know, this documentation is not the official seat documentation. The documentation page we maintain is the following: https://eveseat.github.io/docs/

@user_549981170633277450 run htop and sort by res...

it's not using 24GB ram then?

Maybe I was wrong. Not RAM, but disk capacity.

Depending on what your 500 people are doing that can happen.. Eg if you have market traders etc, or anything that creates a large volume of data then sure it can blow out reasonably quickly

So it is possible that producers and ratters/miners (due to the large amounts of information and logs required to be saved) can also cause this?

Yeah its possible, not normally as bad as markets.. but can get up there

Okay, so I understand this now and can consider it normal. So I don't think this is a problem anymore.

you can find where the space is going in the DB using this info: https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/821361546608508938/1135573587214999572

The other thing that can chew space though is logs. If you are in debug level logging you can have multiple gigs per day easily

ncdu is your friend

that happend when i click submit killmail

If you retry clicking it again what do you see?

Same?

that when is not url

It will need a url in there. Can you try a different killmail and see if that works?

okay another is working so only killmail what we delate

but i need break

for second

https://esi.evetech.net/latest/killmails/131657668/eb872d266de7b98d9b76415d2e672272968b3d13/

how much shows you?

Hi, when you will add the new named Ore to Buy Back Plugin?

Working on it... We have had to change our source of SDE.. Previously we relied on the fuzzwork SDE conversion. I'm just finishing up an importer that works on CCPs data.

As it affects all of seat not just buyback so people are on the same page

roger that, ty!

Hey all, I have a question about SSL. I did the bare metal install of SeAT as per the instructions (except being on ubuntu 24.04). Now I'm trying to add SSL and it looks like I need my www directory to now have my domain name instead of seat? I imagine this would make a lot of things not work correctly. Am I missing something here? Thanks!

Pretty sure you're missing something

Well, SSL is only mentioned at the end of the install directions. Says to read certbot documentation, which says I need to have a "server block" (which functionally seems to mostly just be a separate folder) with the same name as the domain if I understood correctly. Maybe it's just simple to move everything inward by just one folder, however I don't know much about most of the packages SeAT uses.

You wont need to change the directory. It has nothing to do with ssl.

Server block is the config file for nginx. as seen here: https://eveseat.github.io/docs/installation/manual_installation/#nginx-configuration

So setting up SSL on a manual install is the same as any other nginx (Note, not nginx proxy manager) installation. Google is your friend there. And certbot is a good way to do it

Okay cool. I'll check it out. I did Google and three different places mentioned needing a folder named the same as your domain name. Thanks.

Howdy! I just installed seat in docker for some local testing, and I'm able to auth my characters but no data is showing up anywhere in seat. This is my first time using seat, so I'm wondering if I missed a step. Everything is green on the monitoring pages and no errors are listed on the error section

Have you figured this out? I have the same issue every day around the same time. Specifically the Names one

Did you set the admin email?

I did after install. I'm seeing ESI requests complete too. I'm using the default .env configuration with the usual updates except I had to add a port to the end of APP_URL. I'm sort of wondering if the ESI data isn't writing to the docker volume, but my manual admin email change did.

Why did you add a port by chance?

Using TLS on non standard port?

You also reflect that in dev area?

I actually changed that too in the .env file (because I'm running this as localhost in docker desktop) This is what that variable looks like - APPURL=http://${SEATDOMAIN}:8080

Is that the problem?

SEAT_DOMAIN=localhost

and in eve dev you put localhost and can login just fine without the admin?

yeah, http://localhost:8080 works fine and I'm able to SSO my toons in

I believe that should be the name of your DNS, not localhost..

localhost works fine so long as you are the only one using it

Which jobs do you see completing and what data is missing

Nope after the total amount of failed Job where going back over time i lost it out of sight

May I dm?

You are better off asking here

For SRP - how do i delete requests so that a player can resubmit them? When i click on delete the requests go into a "pending deletion" state indefinitely.

@user_301981661761896449 Any thoughts? ☝️

It's a two step process for safety. Check the SRP settings page..

ahhhh! ok thank you!

Hello friends. I'm still learning SeAT (and love it so far) but I'm trying to figure out how to fix a small issue. A structure in our space was renamed in game, but SeAT still shows the old name. Has for a few weeks. Is there something I can do to update the structure's name?

Because the structures ESI endpoint is relatively problematic, we are quite aggressive with avoiding unnecessary refetches of structures we already know. You can’t do it with the ui, you’ll have to connect to the db and delete it from universe_structures manually and seat will refetch the new name

Awesome, thanks for the reply. I can probably manage doing that.

@user_301981661761896449 Hiya.... So i used to be able to see a charcter dropdown as a third column in Fittings. And then i would be able to choose from a dropdown each of my toons and see what skills they are missing but now i don't see that entire column anymore. Was something upgraded and I missed it?

How do you recommend connecting to the DB to drop an entry?

It being missing is generally an indication something errored on the backed. Check your network window in browser tools to see if there were some failed requests. Also can check laravel log for errors too

trying to see the logs.....i have this one error that has been going for the last year.....it is from a character that sued to be in the corp and is not anymore....i have tried deleting them from "users" from "characters" from whever i can find them but this one and another toon jsut keep coming back and causing these errors.