I think those are the endpoints for the starbases on esi

I thing when a starbases got attacked for example its the "state" change in the first endpoint

@user_614098468218339348 i think the code its still on the seat 5.0 but deprecated, probably can be used if adjusted

or its just a notif

I think so

I will talk do a guy moment

Seems like the directors receive notifications on TowerAlertMsg TowerResourceAlertMsg

TowerAlertMsg = 75 TowerResourceAlertMsg = 76 Those seems to be the id's

Tower alerts seems to be the attack events

I'll dig for some payloads 👍 Should have some

I was digging into re-enabling these pings for my Alliance a while back but got sidetracked and never got started. Collected some notifications though

Ok from what i understand... /corporations/{corporationid}/starbases/ /corporations/{corporationid}/starbases/{starbaseid}/ Those are used to get informations about the tower itself, but the notifications for it are sent over /characters/{characterid}/notifications/ On "type" TowerAlertMsg and TowerResourceAlertMsg They seems to be the 75 and 76 on id

The Starbases ESI endpoint information is available in SeAT UI under /corporations/<corpId>/starbases I've shared some examples of notification payloads for TowerAlertMsg & TowerResourceAlertMsg with @user_614098468218339348

You are the man 👌

i have a bunch of POS's but the software i'm using its custom and i cant extract payloads so yeah i was kinda stuck on that one

happy you have those

https://i.imgur.com/1ClMjHP.png

actually this is reading the character itself on seat

Interesting that Agressor is null on that. I haven't seen that before. It's similar payloads I've shared from the character_notifications table in SeAT.

https://i.imgur.com/DRBZ6Xy.png

this one its for fuel on the tower

on another software i use it shows the aggressor , this is on seat 5.0 so since the development have been ''abandoned'' on the starbases probably something its messed

the way ccp works with starbases on esi's seems to be the same for years now, i guess its just a matter on checking the code on seat and reactivate/update it, because its still there

https://github.com/eveseat/notifications/blob/0b70be0c19a39ba61c46b1162c8d06e36e9141f2/src/Notifications/Starbases/Mail/StarbaseFuel.php#L33

this part of the code have been removed on more recent versions i think

syphons are useless, they are not real

https://github.com/eveseat/notifications/blob/0b70be0c19a39ba61c46b1162c8d06e36e9141f2/src/Notifications/Starbases/Slack/StarbaseStateChange.php

i dunno if this was the way seat 4.0 deals with starbases, seems like they are just check all the time the ''state'' of the pos and send a notification if the ''state'' change, at least this is how i understand it, to implement this on seat 5 irs probably easier to create new notification based on what @user_272421272888016897 said above and read the character notifications

i think its the way its to work like those new skyhooks

What software might I ask?

It was custom made, closed for few corps, basically sends notifications, alerts for fuel, its very old piece of code 😂

Sometimes got buggy

Ah was going ask if it's something to pickup even if it's buggy lol

So having everything in one software will solve the mess of dealing with multiple vps's, multiple softwares etc, and lets be honest doesn't seem to be thats hard to implement/reimplement on seat

Some other software claim to do it also like thunderED

Alliance auth says its was also possible

Didnt tried those since my friend have that old dinossaur doing the job (not always 🤣 )

Now I sorta want it but at the same time it's probably locked to specific people or something

Yeah its closed, even running on private server, never got to public from what i know

Its an old piece of code used for that, for station timers (defensive and offensive) stuff like this

hmmm

I am not sure it is scheduled actually

maybe after the update a database migration need to be run or something ?

it is scheduled in seat:buckets:update. If you suspect it doesn't run, you need to search in horizon, for example by monitoring the tag as crypta suggested

I will launch seat buckets update manually

it runs in worker or scheduler ?

that does not guarantee a job will be scheduled, as buckets can decide to not update a character if it has updated in the last hour. Just observe the natural job flow. Alternatively, use esi:job:dispatch

Thanks I will wait a bit

14 hours later I have no clone job launched, but other jobs seems to runs quite fine.

So that implies the job is being bounced out early due to a middleware most likely. Do your API scopes call for clones, and have your users authenticated using a profile requesting clones?

Not sure what we are supposed to draw from this without context

Looks like it's updating more, but it's a rough indication

Yes but what changed though? eveapi last had relevant change september 6

no idea, probably ESI stability?

:v

I have noticed a lot fewer ESI-errors overall lately. So stability seem to be up significantly.

thanks for your answer. Where can I check the api scope to make sure it include clones ? I found this on my seat, when I go to edit a user

also I have a "refresh" button above my skill summary (skills are well retrieved from ESI and conform with my ingame skill queue), but I don't have that over the jump fatigue and jump clone card

I don't know why the reason it's isk value is doubled

https://zkillboard.com/kill/122171682/

How do I make sure than new recruits cannot access all of seat until verified

like people who first come on the website get asked for the api stuff and then they see only there own info about there character and nothing to do with the corp

I made a role for members

but I am not sure what the default role is people get when they come onto SeAT

Squads and access management in settings

I made two seperate squads one for members and one for unverified but how do I have it auto assign roles

Under squad's use the filter tab on the top right.

Ah figured it out

add rules. for instance the rule will asign the role based on the corp they are in

for the filter I have put corporation as the type, is not as the operator and blackwater tech as the criteria

make sure to assign the role in your squad

done

hopefully it works

but for some reason it keeps putting my character in both lol

both member and unverified

doesn't effect me as I am an admin but still it is funny

as defualt reg users should only have access to there information. If they are a ceo or director they will auto have access to all the corp information in seat

good enough

You can also create roles in the Access Management.

Hello! Can i transfer SEAT from one domain to another (example1.com -> example2.com)? And how to do it? Or do i need to reinstall it on the new domain?

It's as simple as pointing the new domain to the correct IP. You would need to adjust some of the configs in your nginx/traffic to say the new domain address. As well as your certification

what about change callback address?

That as well

and the call back at ccp

Hello all! Is there a setting I can grant to allow people to see Settings > Users? Looking for an easy list of mains + alts and this seems like the right place, but after granting every permission they still can't see that section.

That's an admin setting only I believe. You would have to grant them admin status.

Under permissions there should be a section for characters. If you grant that they should be able to see all users I believe.

Okay, thanks. They can see other related characters once they click on one in the full list, but they want it by user, so I think I'll give them admin.

No, i believe that is only for the Admins. IF there is a permission i would check in the Roles under the Character.

If your a small corp this probably isn't an issue. But granting admin access to all users is iffy at best. They can seriously mess up your seat lol

Please don't, lol

Not all users, thankfully. A few leadership/ESI reviewers

I wouldn't unless you explictly trust them.. if something goes sour they can destroy all data

Yeah... I'll bring it up with them. Thanks for the insight everyone!

Agree that I would be very careful with this. Providing someone admin allows them to do potentially major damage to your environment. They could go and delete all your users or SSO configs, see everyone’s assets including CEO and all corps you have tokens for. I guess I’d be curious what the use case is for needing to see the user details on a recruiter level if they have access to see all the characters that would be important enough to provide that level of access.

I believe they want an easy overview of the mains in the corp and all alts associated to each main, without clicking through the character list.

An auto squad moderated by these folks might be a better way as it’ll show the main and alt portraits in the list and then clicking through will provide the full list on the sheet.

use

lets you review the esi's without needing to hand admin out

Don't need to hand admin out for esi access even without seat-HR Can do it via squads and permissions entirely

sorta

not a good way to see a toon and all of their alts

its the "remember me on this pc" option etc, craps out after 40--50 accounts

i have about 20 accounts (only 10 usable) and get this error. Yes, clear cookies helps for several logins (3-6) and after i get error again.

I guess you just need to clear cookies manually every few accounts. Since it is on CCP's side, we can't do much.

While it won't fix the issue, you can bypass the error by logging in to secure.eveonline.com with the account you want to log in with, and then logging in to SeAT.

tried running the bootstrap script but it fails...with this unknown shorthand flag: 'f' in -f

Need more information. Was there any other error logs ?

no. but i rebuilt the server and ran the script again and it seems to be working for now.

Sometimes you just need to type out your problem and it fixes itself 🙂

ok now im slightly confused...i installed using the script and it works...but when i try to get to the admin using docker-compose exec seat-web php artisan seat:admin:login I get this error Command 'docker-compose' not found, but can be installed with: snap install docker

version 24.0.5, or

apt install docker-compose

version 1.29.2-6

See 'snap info docker' for additional versions.

remove the - between docker-compose

it should be "docker compose"

docker compose exec seat-web php artisan seat:admin:login

thank you and now i get this service "seat-web" is not running

but im currently using seat and am logged in with my character

so all is good ?

well im not able to login as an admin

To configure roles etc.

oh now wait...

Done. Thank you all!

👍

which guide are you following? These instructions are for seat 4 instead of seat 5

Yeah I figured out I was using some wrong commands. All good now. I’m on seat 5

Quick question. If the structure is unanchored/ Destroyed or moon frack is being canceled and new one is positioned I still see that frack in SeAT. Is it possible to remove it?

Hmm not that I can recall no.. We probably should though for that case

If you really want to you could by removing the entry from the database directly

yeah for now I think I will do that but I would be nice to have some sort of either button or schedule job to refresh/ clear that.

reminded, new skills and a new sde

get the new sde otherwise you get crashhessss

for seat5 in docker docker compose exec front sh -c 'php artisan eve:update:sde'

Do i have to switch off the containers or something to do this? or simply run this in the opt/seat-docker folder?

just run it in the folder

answer the two questions (accept the defaults probably)

i guess i am already running the latest SDE version...at least that's the reply i get from running the above..

coo

if you just installed or restarted recently

probably fine

yeah...installed a plug in 10 mins ago..

there ya go 🙂

is there a way to safely remove plugins? I installed the seat-squad-sync plugin but don't really sea a use for it after testing it out...

plus it's outdated anyways..

@user_248868314871365632 Any chance you might be working on a seat 5 version for the buyback plugin?

hermesdj has a fork of it for 5.x https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/821361546608508938/1248953543403241504

Noob question - how do i get 2 different logins? one for members and recruits and one for guests only (for example new recruits who we want to validate first). Is this possible? I see it in the styling section and it's inviting..

it is possible under the SSO settings

I see so if i set up 2 different profiles the sign up page will automatically show 2 different logins?

you also have to add them in the Customise Sign In page panel on the same page

ahh yes - is that htML?

no

just the buttons...

Hard to do automatically due to the way that endpoint works.. But a button is doable.

Not sure why you would think it's outdated?

Just remove it from your env file...

Sorry didn't know what else to call it - it shows up like this on my seat setup

Eh, that's just due to the typo in the version number. As you can see both show as 5.0.0

And outdated just normally means you need to update

Not that the package is not maintained.

Ahhh ok!

@user_164076488294006785 is your seat calendar working and actively maintained? I’d love to use it. Also will it work with crypatech’s seat fitting?

Yes if I am pinged here I do fix bugs. And no it does not work with cryptatech fitting.

Thank you!!

In the alliance view I see all alliances...342 pages of them. Is there any way to only see the alliance I am associated with (without having to go "delete" all alliances)?

no. I don't know why there is a delete button in the first place. The alliance will be discovered again during the next ESI update

I am in Admin mode though. But if i impersonate a user without admin rights i still see all the alliances without the delete button.

You can just search for your alliance

Sure, but it kind of defeats the purpose of having a third party tool made for "your" Corp/Alliance.

did the ESI shit the bed again?

uh ... what?

how can you use a tool like this to look at shit like character employment history etc without knowing about other corps/alliances?

Oh so you're saying a list of all alliances in the game showing up is intentional?

yes

What about All corporations? Shouldnt that be helpful as well basd on your logic?

This biggest benefit of SeAT is the information. Helps larger alliances with spies and people who want to do harm

So the list of alliances is there to help with that

where can i find a list of all the corporations?

From this permission - it seems like it should only show the alliance associated with our corp. But it doesn't, it shows all 3415 alliances. Plus it also doesn't show the member corporations of any of the other alliances (3414 of them). You guys have done a great job building this. I'm just rying to undrestand the intention and how we could use this in our corp.

It's a matter of load on the server. It's very simple to have the full list as it's public data. And for a short time we had the full list of corps, however the number of corps significantly outstrips the number of alliances and it made things quite slow by having them.

So instead we only load corps on an as needed basis. Over time your Corp list will fill out with all corps needed to fill out info for your seat install.

As to the alliances. All alliances are listed, but data is only loaded for alliances that you have tokens for. And the permissions restrict access to see that data

Makes so much sense!! Yeah on the "all corporations" list we can see all the corporations that are part of our alliance including ourselves. Thank you for that note. Super helpful!! 🙏

And as some people join....we let them have an alt outside the corp (as long as they auth that alt on SeAT). once they do, that corp also shows up. Which is super important to us. This is great! thanks again.

https://evestatus.com/

Oof

So the calendar works on Eve time - anyway I can change it to local? and so it shows local to everyone who clicks on it?

No you cant change it right now, but if you configure it to sync to discord, it will sync to your discord time the event created there.

I connected to discord. Is ther a way to force a ping (like when i create the op? or is it completely dependent on the the ping interval setup?

Also using your fittings plugin to have the doctrines connection.

You have to configure in the notification menu a discord integration for your operation discord channel. And then in notification group, you configure there that you want "Calendar Create", "Calendar Update" (etc, there are multiple events) to go to this integration, and there you can set for example to mention here or everyone or a specific role

it's integrated in the notification system of SeAT 🙂

ahhh gotcha!

you can also configure multiple notification groups, and in the tag config set a tag to send the notification to a specific group

for example, we have a "school" tag for when we organise courses, and there is a dedicated school channel, so notifications of operations with this tag go there

SWEET!!!

Thank you!

But be careful, if you put "School" tag and "Ore" tag, with 2 different channels configured (or if on a tag you dont select a channel, it will go to the "default" one). Well then it will push the notification in both channels 😅

Ahhh so I’m in for some trial and error then. So cool that ya’ll built this!

hello, any idea why after upgrading to seat 5 it just says "500 | server Error" when I go to the website?

.docs.troubleshooting

@user_301981661761896449, https://eveseat.github.io/docs/troubleshooting/

Have a look in the laravel logs

alright I'll have a look

ty

I turned on debugging and it gave me the error "Unsupported cipher or incorrect key length. Supported ciphers are: aes-128-cbc, aes-256-cbc, aes-128-gcm, aes-256-gcm."

Check that you copied your APP_KEY over from v4

I thnk I fixed it, I copyed the key from my old config

yea

are you supposed to manually restore the database from 4 into 5? Doesn't look like it has done it

I blew it all away, manually made the mariadb container, put the 4x backup into it then started seat 5.. and we're mostly good now

I'm getting an error in the laravel log, not sure if I should be concerned: cURL error 6: Could not resolve host: esi.evetech.net (see https://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/c/libcurl-errors.html) for https://esi.evetech.net/v1/status/?datasource=tranquility {"exception":"[object] (GuzzleHttp\\Exception\\ConnectException(code: 0): cURL error 6: Could not resolve host: esi.evetech.net

alright fixed that too 🙂

So seat-inventory requires seat-fitting but there are two seat-fittings --- one with cryptatech and one with hermesdj... I used the hermesdj one so that it works with hermesdj-calendar and now the inventory plugin doesnt recognize the hermesdj-fittings plugin. How di solve for this? Install both plugins?

@user_301981661761896449 @user_164076488294006785 FYI 👆

We are aware of the issue and plan to fix it so that it will go back to one plugin in the future. For now, I don't think there is a solution

However, you can still use seat-inventory without seat-fitting, you just can't automate getting fits from seat-fitting

ok thank you...if i have to move to a different sat-fitting plugin wil it still retain the fittings i already have?

that depends on if a fork renamed the database tables

gotcha so there is a way...Thank you!

i love the inventory module and if it worked with the fitting it would be sooooo good. loving it with our calendar...

I am unsure if I have something cofigured wrong or not. According to a corp member Seat 4 seat-fitting showed if you were missing any hull requirements when viewing the fit. I set up Seat 5 for my corp and the seat-fitting plugin does not seem to show the hull requirements. Is that normal or have I perhaps messed something up?

Its under doctrine report. They also have to be granted access to this in order to see it

Ok. Thanks

for seat/buyback 1. is it able to take into account the reprocessing value for ores? 2. How to use the code generated that goes into the description field for the in-game contract. 3. Can there be more than one person in the corp/alliance doing buybacks? How to set that up?

1. No, you would have to define fixed prices for Moon ores for example 2. It is used to check the price ingame is correct. Honestly it's not very useful but sometimes the name in the contract ingame is not the same because it was done by an alt, in this case its helpful 3. No, unless you create a special account in game and share the credential with the other persons handling the buybacks for example

Third one shouldn't do.. it's a EULA violation.

Risk your account(s)

Wouldn't it make more sense to make contracts to a corp instead?

No because if you make a contract to a corp it's everyone in the corp who can accepti t

You can make new one only for contract

that's what altcorps are for...

I never said you couldnt

Just beware of suggesting to violate the EULA as you can be in trouble by proxy.

yeah don't share accounts

use a dedicated altcorp for buybacks if possible

Sadly not possible for me XD

I know, you have an alliance leader who is not particularly enamoured with buybacks in general

Wish corp projects were on an alliance level

not likely to ever happen

😄

I’m gonna fight for it

god...would make skyhook and moon goo logistics so much better

@user_140706470856622080 Also wish you could like create a project thats "Fuel the JB with LO"

and structure fuel

find a way to reward logistics folk, while also reduce the burden

Hi guys. I'm just wondering if the seat holds any database on the specific date? E.g. I would like to check what kind of assets my mate held a couple of months ago. Is it possible?

No, for assets seat only holds the current state in its DB

You might be able to extract it off a backup though

Should i just add the cryocaustik/seat-hr:v2.x-dev to the .env file for seat-hr to work on seat 5? So far I've just been adding things to the .env file. @user_106257021795323904

Super helpful! Thank you.

well trying seat first but i'm running into a db issue i've changed and set the password in the database as far as i know but now i'm getting an access denied In Connection.php line 829: SQLSTATE[HY000] [1045] Access denied for user 'seat'@'localhost' (using password: YES) ( Connection: mysql, SQL: select tablename as name, (datalength + indexlength) as si ze, tablecomment as comment, engine as engine, tablecollation as collation from informationschema.tables where tableschema = 'seat' and tabletype in ('BASE TABLE', 'SYSTEM VERSIONED') order by table_name) In Connector.php line 65: SQLSTATE[HY000] [1045] Access denied for user 'seat'@'localhost' (using password: YES)

i've followed the GRANT ALL ON seat.* to seat@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'ichangedthispassword';

nvm password was to hard i guess

last bit that im struggling with :

• The certificate was saved, but could not be installed (installer: nginx). After fixing the error shown below, try installing it again by running:

certbot install --cert-name seat.domain.eu "i set the domain name there" Could not automatically find a matching server block for seat.amiomia.eu. Set the server_name directive to use the Nginx installer.

^^ fixed it

Is it possible to have 2 different buyback programs? One for ore at x% and one for loot at y%. Is there a workaround?

AA has this and is very helpful in our case.

If they are different items and you are only changing the percentage why do you need different buyback programs?

Wouldnt the item config suffice?

Imagine buyback list looks like this

Maybe there needs item group add or something...

Yeah like a "bulk import" would be nice

It's painful to manage when you need to configure multiple items

TypeError: Seat\Notifications\Notifications\Characters\Discord\Killmail::zKillBoardToDiscordLink(): Argument #2 ($id) must be of type int, null given, called in /var/www/seat/vendor/eveseat/notifications/src/Notifications/Characters/Discord/Killmail.php on line 95 and defined in /var/www/seat/vendor/eveseat/notifications/src/Traits/NotificationTools.php:79

Is this a known issue with killmails mentioning NPCs or should i make a proper bug-report somewhere?

And also we've noticed that some killmails are sent as red, despite our corporation being the victors

Our kill mails are looking like this What can i do to be able to see the "unknown" parts? Or this is the expected functionality?

The kill mail for SeAT is not very good. It's best to use hazardous killbot

It used to work. But for whatever reason last week or so it shows up with “unknown”.

Well, i've set seat up like 5 days ago, so didn't see it working. Do npc killmails work for you?

It's never really worked properly as far as I know

So hazardous killbot is the only other option? Ugh didn’t want another bot in there. But oh well.

AA seems to have a pretty good one.

So you can use hazardous killbot with your own bot. So you only have 1 bot. Read the docs for it.

I have several programs running under one bot

I'm at work atm. But later tonight I can show you how to do it

That'd be helpful....im in US ET

Same. It won't be till 10ish

Hey all! Just got Seat installed in my VPS, logs appear to show its running in the background, but the preferred URL is showing "Server Not Found"

Any ideas?

how did you install it

(pls say docker)

DOcker lol

ok , drop a docker compose ps

ah good good

what do your traefik labels look like on your front container

You might need to dumb that down a bit for me :p

did you edit the compose files ?

or just accept the default ones

did you remember to edit the .env

specifically the seat_domain

I just installed direct from the docker image, and when it asked for the url I used seat.domain.com with my domain

I'll have a look in the .env

It's there

does that domain exist and point at your server?

*** one.one.one.one can't find seat.nowyouregone.com: Non-existent domain

nowyouregone.com exists

I jsut added seat.nowyourgone

I figured it would work. (Im a data scientist)

its all good

you can add *.nowyouregone.com and point it at your vps

will catch all future domains

as in, buy it ?

no, you own it already

you can just configure it at your dns host

Ahh, got you. thaks 🙂

I've added seat. to the domain. I have another VPS running AA and didn't want to break it. Apparently it can take 48h to update

its usally not 48 hrs. cloudflare is 5 minutes on average

Yeah, on this end still showing

Navigating to server IP gives: 404 page not found

https://tenor.com/view/frankenstein-its-alive-gif-10618052

Thanks for al lthe help folks! 😄

I just need to set up SSL I think as its telling me its insecure, but I'll figure that out lol

once you get the domain working

if the domain doesnt work, you cant get a cert for ssl

@user_164076488294006785 can’t find the chat now but I remember I had asked about different buyback programs and you or someone else might have suggested adding a feature to have buybacks at different locations. Could that be something worthwhile to add on your roadmap?

Using docker 5.x version and followed the steps to customize the css however, tried restarting services and did a full restart of the server, multiple times, the customization is not being applied. Cleared cache in browser, checked the logs for any error that might hint at the issue and cannot find anything.

Hi guys, I am using the calendar for the fleet pap, now I have a question, how to export the paps for the last month?

There is a discussion in the chat that I had to follow to make it work. The steps in the documentation site are missing a few things.

any thoughts on making something like this? https://apps.allianceauth.org/apps/detail/aa-blueprints

https://ravworks.com

It connects to seat auth for corporation/alliance members?

And has toggles for requesting access?

maybe look at it before asking questions?

nope... complete independent..

how does this do what he needs though?

I know how it works. It doesn’t any of the connects I was looking last I checked. It maybe there was something new in the last 24 hours. Maybe let’s not assume.

shrug, Asrik started it 😛

lol.

I know it’s a lot to ask for the folks who are building but thought I’d suggest.

Gigi asked.. I gave a suggestion.. 😉

and it does the following? Features Lists all blueprints owned by corporation or alliance (configurable with permissions) Manage user requests for making copies of blueprints

🤔

We used that alliance auth plugin I shared. It worked quite naturally. But now we are using SeAT and We currently have it setup with a blueprints hangar. However we also now have a holding corp and it became messy quickly with hangar access.

things generally get messy quickly in EVE

that's why we drink

I’m serving a lot of koolaid to my corp mates these days. “The SeAT guys are the best”. Meanwhile we totally messed up the corp mining taxes because there is some bug in the corp mining taxes plugin. Hiya folks, I’m over here! 😂

did it work with AA? 😄

Things typically work with AA / it has really bad UI and needs a dedicated engineer to setup.

Huge dependency on the engineering.

Ok.. i see what it is.. I thought it all indy stuff...

it keeps a record of BP of who has what..

We setup SeAT, well mostly I did for my corp mates these cos it’s shiny and all our fundamental needs are met with the plugins.

Yes, but more importantly it allows minute controls over each BPO and sharing without the need for hangar access.

how does it do that?

😄

You see a BPO you want / you request access / discord pings the owner / owner creates a BPC and hands it over. It’s an extra step yes. But also doesn’t need to have hangar access which is super pain to manage in-game. Plus every time someone new joins you’ll have to make sure you give them hangar access by right clicking on their name and giving them access via a title that’s setup in-game for that hangar.

ah right

owner creates a BPC

Correct. But everyone can see what BPOs are available (folks can choose which BPOs to make available). In-game unless you have the favtory manager role you cannot see what BPOs anyone else has.

That makes it nice a safe

I would ask the dev if they are willing to make it for seat.. otherwise someone will have to fork it..

Without hangar access is key!! Hangar access is super tricky. If you manufacture something from a blueprints hangar with query access then the manufactured item has to be placed in another corp hangar which has to be left open to all so they can also “take”.

Blueprint plugin for alliance-auth is very cool indeed, and I'm pretty sure it wouldnt be too hard to do on SeAT. But I wont have the time to do it, I already have too much work on the other plugins x)

Alliance auth buyback plugin is also great

Yeah the AA buyback plugin allows for multiple characters and multiple locations and also a bulk upload of data for some thing. For example bulk upload prices for NPC sell-only items. The first 2 features would be epic to get in Seat.

Yes + configuration on how price are computed (like use refined value for ore) is very cool. I'd love to implement many of those in the seat buyback plugin, if I have the time, but right now it's what I lack...

Exactly. And yeah totally understandable. Wish I could help. Every new member we sign up who starts to use our site is highly impressed - most have seen AA but the seat UI is definitely something else.

thank you for the heads up and response! ill take a look in the chat for the discussion for it!

Is there a schedule that i have to add (i.e. not in default) to get new titles from in-game? We added/edited some titles and want to use squads but the new/edited titles are not shoing up yet.

it autopopulates but has a long cache

Hello everyone. Is there a way to load characters in the seat with specific data columns? I currently have a task to unload a list with the following columns: 1 "character nickname" 2 "character sp count" Can this be done using seat without using any modules from GitHub or not? I understand that character data is stored in the database, but I don't see any ways to interact with it directly from the web interface. Thanks in advance for your answers!

seems more like a thing for a plugin

the question is do we really need it and why

you can query the db for that if you are brave

sql
SELECT ci.name AS character_name, cis.total_sp FROM character_infos ci INNER JOIN character_info_skills cis ON ci.character_id = cis.character_id;

It's easy to be brave if you make and check backups. Thanks, I'll try.

every month I run seat, I write more sql 😛

Somehow I'm getting this error on our buyback plugin. For Ref: 1. I do have an API key allocated to me (For Janice) 2. It used to work before.

My seat is updated, schedule seems to be here, but I see no jobs for updating the characters assets etc. Only status and esi. All my characters token look fine. I see no failed jobs also, and nothing scheduled either Can I try to launch manually to see what is happening ?

the command line you see I typed in "seat-docker-worker-1"

Two things. 1. What does horizon show? 2. Try the artisan command seat:buckets:balance

look like seat:buckets:balance have an effect I see many jobs processed in horizon now. I will keep you updated thanks 🙂

is anyone able to shed some insight as to what market transaction locations for players shows up as "unkown" ?

there are a few instances where we get a location but 90% of the time its listed as unknown

Citadel or npc station?

so for ones that i know are from jita come up as unkown

We (our corp) just got called out on how the buyback doesn't compute at refined ore value. almost coup d'etat territory. lol. Any chance you might be working on it anytime soon?

Not at the moment and I'm not sur when I will be able. On my own configuration I created a fixed price for each ores based on the refined value to avoid this situation

Hey! I had the seat up and running, but it was prompting users with a security alert. So i went to letsencrypt, followed the guide. Killed the docker containers, then ran 'sudo certbot certonly --standalone' I've started the containers up again. Now I'm trying to run 'docker compose -f docker-compose.yml -f docker-compose.mariadb.yml -f docker-compose.traefik.yml up -d ' But I get the error: failed to read /opt/seat-docker/.env: Invalid template: "https://${https://seat.nowyouregone.com/}" How do I fix it? :p Ignore me: I was just too eager. All good

Is there a way for the seat discord bot to kick people from the discord if they dont have a certain role?

No

You can setup pruning in discord

But it's way delayed

You can make it so they can't see anything if they don't have a certain role

Which effectively is kicking them.

Except discord is insecure AF and even with no roles You can get all chan names, descriptions and watch for activity

i have the following schedule setup but seat isnt updating indy and mining data. Is there a way to set seat to refresh all data only at specific times of day to reduce server load?

Are there any mining and indy related jobs being processed? Is t for all characters or just some?

I'm trying to run the command to get admin status; root@vmi2314890:/opt/seat-docker# docker compose exec front php artisan seat:admin:login failed to read /opt/seat-docker/.env: Invalid template: "https://${https://seat.nowyouregone.com/}" If I wrap it with ' ', I get

In Request.php line 1169:

  Invalid Host "${https".

Any suggestions?

what is in your .env for the APP_URL setting?

APP_URL='https://${https://seat.nowyouregone.com/}'

try APP_URL='https://seat.nowyouregone.com/'

Returns this:

have a feeling somethings not right in your config

you should have a SEAT_DOMAIN=seat.nowyouregone.com

and a APP_URL=https://${SEAT_DOMAIN}

I've run docker-compose up -d after the change

Returtns a valid url, but website is nowq 404 :<

yea update your .env to those two values

seat 5 right?

Yes

I've made those changes, still a 404 😦

make sure you are doing https://eveseat.github.io/docs/installation/docker_installation/#configuration-changes that command down there

selecting the correct setup

Gentleman, thank you!"

no, thats the right way to fix it

re-added a ZIL to my proxmox server running SeAT ...

what is a ZIL?

ZFS intent log ... sync writes gets dumped there (as a copy), then kept in memory and flushed as regular async writes

every few seconds

https://www.servethehome.com/what-is-the-zfs-zil-slog-and-what-makes-a-good-one/ is a good primer... I use a very high endurance enterprise SATA SSD

480GB SSD, has 4380 TBW endurance 😅

compared to a 1TB samsung 980 pro nvme ... with 600TBW endurance 😄

slight difference

hehe

the two PM863a drives in zfs mirror that SeAT lives on (with other VMs, mind...) have a 1.3 drive writes per day (3 years) rating, so 960GB is about 1366TBW

and SeAT has ued 5% of their rated endurance in less than 6 months

(apologies for the nerd dump 😄 )

o7 Hey, I'm recently getting a 500 error when I click on the mail timeline. Are you aware of this?

did u check docs. ? any logs from that error?

Hmm, I just deleted the last 20 emails, and one of them seems to have caused the issue. I'll see if it works permanently now or if the error pops up again right away.

Thanks for the report, I'll investigate it

Would you mind sharing the content from the mail that causes it to crash? I've narrowed down what goes wrong, but I don't (yet) understand why it goes wrong

Hey, I'll retrieve the emails from my backup. I couldn't identify the exact email, so I just deleted all of them from yesterday to today.

I'll send you a PM.

https://github.com/eveseat/services/pull/183

I have been looking but have not found a way to get Starbase notifications. Is there an option for this?

no

General question, I might be overlooking in the documentation. Is it possible to assign Different SSO Profile's to certain Characters? I want my CEO and director's to pull more ESI then just recruits for Structure notifications. I see where to make multiple but not sure if those are usable.

👋 Hi all, we had an admin remove the esi:update:characters scheduled task awhile back due to a bunch of errors he was seeing but I think it screwed a few things up(tasked with fixing). We are attempting to add that schedule back but running into validation.artisan error when attempting to do so on an admin account. Any ideas what this is referring too? There are no hints in the logs or inspection window as to what actaully went wrong. I don't have access to the container logs at this time. I did not see anything in the docs regarding this. Will check .docs if there's anything else.

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Yes...you will have different buttons on the login page...it's configured on the sso page

Just create multiple profiles

Read right over that. I am seeing this now! Thank you Akov! Solved my issues.

Think you might have to edit the login page too

Not sure tbh

the esi:update:characters command is no longer used as part of a regular schedule, it has been replaced with buckets

.docs.buckets

Got it I'll see if that's still scheduled. For context Newly registered users for the last 2 months haven't had batch jobs created for them

The validation error is because the update characters command now expects a characterID in order to uupdate a single character manually

So they're never getting updated to correct permissions

So I would be looking that the buckets update command is scheduled, default is every 2 mins. Then I would check and see what the token status and scopes are on those users

Impersonated one of the users having an issue and their scopes look correct and valid

But they do not have a batch when looking at horizon

Our refresh token job has been failing a lot lately though:

Seat\Eveapi\Jobs\Token\RefreshAccessToken

Sorry, I inherited this X) battling both: 1. Understanding how SEaT works under the hood to better understand what's failing and why it's failing 2. Fix our corps SEaT instead of potentially deploying a seperate instance and everyone re-auth from scratch

I appreciate the help @user_301981661761896449

its got spinning drives for backups

so you do take backups

good

😄

yea its all docker

ah docker... tsk 😄

so its got hourly of all the docker bits to spinning

and daily dbs

and the dailys sync off the box

mm

I run a few services on the box

yeah

33 containers

all eve shit

yikes

😛

seat, pathfinder, wiki, evepraisal, thundered, then all our internal tools and discord bots

box is busy, but not breathing very hard

as long as you have enough memory and you're not stalling on IO, that's very good

swapping to the hetzer box was a big step up

even if the stats are are comparable

was on a large droplet from do before

was just murdering the disk

its chillen this time of night

yep

https://discord.com/channels/821361165791133716/821361546608508938/1325545201258725479 you can see how much difference proper storage makes 🙂

yea

hence deciding on zfs0

I loathe raid0

but as long as you are prepared for disaster, it's okay

having a proper slog makes a huge difference

yea, just tough when bidding on hetzner boxes to get good disk configs